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2019.12.28 23:35 Fallout0wl [TOMT] [Book] About a boy in a family with special powers

Hi! I hope someone can help me, I've had this stuck in my head for years and want to read it again! I remember reading it like 5-10 years ago.
Everything that I can remeber: There is a boy and he lives in a family where everyone has some special ability (like his mother can make everything "perfect", in a good or bad way and his cousin can turn invisible). He is about to discover his new powers. He can disassemble and reassemble electric things, such as telephones and later even excavators (I think?). They live in a town, where nearly everything closed, because the daughter of the major has the power to make people believe everything she writes down, her mother was from the family, but she doesn't kbow about her powers. When she was little she wrote absurd things about the people in the town. Her dad believed the things and wanted them all gone. At the end of the book excavators want to destroy the house of the family, but the main character stops them and turns them into art or something. I don't remeber much more :)
The german cover was some painting of a girl (or boy) in portrait faced to the reader, except hehis hair was in front of the face, so it seemed like it's a foto from behind. I don't know if that helps, since it's the german cover and it could be different in english :)
Thanks for helping!
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2019.05.26 22:37 HelloLurkerHere A serial killer raped and murdered at least 10 prostitutes between 1988 and 1996 in Almería, Spain. He was later dubbed the Ravine Killer, and he has never been apprehended nor identified

Hi everyone! This is a serial killer case from my country that went forgotten through the years (I didn't know about it until I stumbled upon it recently on the net) depite its horrible magnitude. This was due to the fact that all the victims were low-end prostitutes and streetwalkers with severe drug addiction issues and lack of a caring family. At the time these people were regarded as garbage, and thus not as deserving of justice as normal, law-abiding citizens (things are much better nowadays though). Therefore, their murders didn't cause the giant outrage that other crimes -like the Alcásser Girls, for example- did. I was thinking of writing about other more known cases, but the fact that these women were forgotten because of their social condition made me think that this is a story worth being told.

Unfortunately, for or the reasons I mentioned above, there is not too much info about this killer. So this will be more of a timeline than a writeup. Nevertheless, I hope I can spark your interest in this case. Here it goes;
EDIT: Pic of Almería, just to avoid graphic pic further down the text showing to mobile users without warning;


Almería is a 190,000 inhabitants city located on the southeastern coast of Andalusia, Spain. Readers from Central and Northern European countries are probably very familiar with it, since its warm Mediterranean climate has made it one of the top tourist destinations in the country. In fact, tourism and leisure has been its main source of profit since the 1960's, and many retired Northern Europeans have made Almería their home for the winter months or even all year-round. However, it's also one of the main drug hot-spots of the country, with some level of organized crime involved and one of the highest homicide rates in Spain.

October 23rd, 1988

A scrap dealer was picking junk from the ditch of the A-334 road near the town of Purchena (some 50 km / 30 mi north of Almería) when he noticed a very unpleasant smell. After following it he found the decomposed body of a woman, whose feet were sticking out of a sewage culvert. She was wearing just a red T-shirt and red shoes. The T-shirt featured a drawing on the back of a snowy set of mountains and the English words SKY DIVING SENSATION below it. She had been bludgeoned to death, as the extensive injuries on her head and neck attested. Both parietal bones on her skull were severely broken. According to the forensic study she had died in June or July of 1988.

Investigators discovered that she had been killed elsewhere an later dropped there, possibly thrown from the road by her killer. She stood 160 cm tall (5'3'') and weighed some 65 kg (145 lbs). Her hair was reddish blonde and her age was estimated to be around 30 years-old. She had a robust complexion, investigators thought that she probably grew up on a rural environment and did a lot of physical work during her life. The forensic team also found out that she had suffered a broken right fibula about two years prior to her death. The investigators used this piece of information trying to find a clue on local hospitals, but never got any lead.
At the time LE thought that the woman could have been a prostitute who had been murdered due to a settled revenge. She has never been identified.

August 6th, 1989

At the small rural town of Vélez-Rubio (85 km / 53 mi northeast of Almería) a local shepherd took his flock out to the countryside during the early morning hours. After he crossed the road near a construction site at the kilometer 114 he spotted the dead body of a woman on the ditch. She was naked and, because of the high heat of that day her body had already stated to decay.

She was identified as 24-years old María del Carmen Heredia Alameda. She was known as a prostitute who operated on El Zapillo neighborhood, in Almería. She had been seen alive for the last time at around 4:00 am of August 5th in that same neighborhood. Her body showed a large bruise on her neck. While the first hypothesis was that she had overdosed and then had been dropped there by her supplier to avoid trouble, the posterior forensic exam pointed at death by strangulation -and thus, instead of a OD case it was a murder. Just like the unidentified woman, she had died somewhere else and then dropped there.

August 28th, 1989

A newly-married French couple was hiking and taking pictures during their honeymoon at La Bayana ravine, just some 2 km (1.2 mi) west of Almería when they noticed something odd at the bottom of a cliff. It was the dead body of a woman, whose limbs were severely broken. The naked body was in a place so hard to reach that a SAR helicopter was needed to retrieve it. She was later identified as 20-years old Carmen Dolores Sandmeyer Ramón, a locally known prostitute and the daughter of a local German drug kingpin. Just like Heredia, she was often seen at El Zapillo looking for clients, and she too had been strangled to death. The killer had taken her there after her death and then he threw her body down the cliff. She had been raped.
Dead body of Sandmeyer (WARNING! NSFW);

The rumors about a killer targeting sex workers had already spreaded at this point. Many street walkers stopped working outside, many others left Almería and those who kept being on street started to take cautionary measures; every time a fellow street walker left with a client others would take notes of as much info as possible; physical description, car, license plates, etc. They also started demanding LE to do a better job protecting them, as they felt that they were being discriminated for their condition of sex workers.

October 6th, 1991

At Punta Entinas, near a huge greenhouse area some 30 km (18 mi) west of Almería nicknamed "Mar de Plástico" ("Plastic Sea"), two workers found the heavily decayed body of a woman. She was wearing only a red bra. She stood around 160 cm tall (5'3'') and she had died by blunt force trauma to her head. Her age was estimated to be between 25 and 30-years old. At first it was thought to be the body of the English nurse Alexandra Lily Lye, who had gone missing while vacationing in Almería on August 30th. But Lye's dental records didn't match the body's. Lye has never been found and the murdered woman has never been identified. LE's investigation pointed at her being a regular sex worker in Almería, although they could never figure out her true identity.

March 7th, 1992

Near the luxurious neighborhood of Almerimar -which back in 1992 was in construction works-, some 40 km (25 mi) west of Almería, construction workers found the naked body of a woman, lying facedown on the rocks. It was 28-years old María Jesús Muñoz Borrego, a prostitute from El Zapillo. She was five months pregnant. Just like Sandmeyer, Muñoz had been raped, strangled to death and later thrown down a cliff. Her dead body experienced a 40 meters (130 feet) free-fall before hitting the ground. Her face showed signs of having been beaten. LE officialy dubbed the murderer as the Ravine Killer, since the bodies often appeared in or next to ravines, and in two instances already they had been thrown down cliffs.

Dead body of Muñoz (WARNING! NSFW);

July 21st, 1992

The charred and mutilated remains of a young woman were found at Almería's garbage dump site. The woman has never been identified. It's unclear if she was another victim of the Ravine Killer, althought LE believed she was. She, along with the 1988 Purchena victim, are the less clear victims.

January 25th, 1993

A German tourist was jogging across Aguadulce beach, some 10 km (6 mi) west of Almería. She decided to take a shortcut across a near reedbed. While running through it she tripped and fell. She looked back and realized that she had bumped into a dead body. It was the body of 22-years old María Leal Martínez, a prostitute from Almería. She was married and had a 4-years old son.

Leal was found naked, and she too had been strangled to death after being raped. She had been seen alive for the last time the previous night. A fellow street walker told LE that Leal had jumped into a car with a client. The car was described as a sports car, dark blue and with a large rear wing that was slightly dented. The car was located and the owner questioned. LE could not find any incriminating evidence on him.

Local LE requested backups from Madrid, since at this point it was obvious that they were dealing with a serial killer. At the time Portuguese police was dealing with a serial killer of their own in Lisbon dubbed the Lisbon Ripper. Just like the English 19th century murderer, the Lisbon killer targeted prostitutes, which were eviscerated after their deaths (unlike the Ravine Killer, who employed blunt force and then dumped his victims naked somewhere). At some point they got help from a FBI team -which was already in Lisbon working on the Lisbon Ripper's case- and they elaborated a probable criminal profile for the killer;

- White male
- Aged between 28 and 35-years old, although could be as old as 45
- Married or engaged, led an apparently normal life
- Physically strong
- Had a violent temper with explosive outbursts of aggression
- Possibly worked as a truck driver, although possibly as a taxi driver too. Had extensive knowledge of the local roads

Once they elaborated this profile, the FBI contrasted it with the data they already had from collaborating in similar cases that were taking place in Belgium and the Netherlands at the time.

July 5th, 1993

A farmer finds a dead body in one of the pathways among the many greenhouses at El Ejido, at some 40 km (25 mi) west of Almería. The corpse belonged to 25-years old Khadija 'Katty' Monsar, a Moroccan prostitute. She was wearing only a red bra. Her shirt, pants and panties were found buried next to the wall of the nearest greenhouse. Investigators noticed the frequent findings of red items of clothing on some of the victims, especially underwear and shoes.

Katty had been raped and later strangled to death. Her body showed signs of having been tied up. Her killer had placed a strip of duct tape on her mouth before she died, probably in order to muffle her screams.

August 2nd, 1994

A resident of Los Ángeles neighborhood in Almería found the dead body of a young woman behind a soccer field during his morning walk. It was 22-years old Nadia Hach Amar, a Dutch-Moroccan prostitute who often worked at El Zapillo. She was naked, had been raped and had been strangled to death. Her clothes were found scattered between bushes on a 20 meters (65 feet) radius. Her body showed numerous signs of violence, but the forensic team thought that the killer had tried to leave false clues and make LE believe that the motive had been robbery with violence. No blood was found on her body, nor around, which led LE to think that she had been killed somewhere else. The killer had made a vertical cut in each of her buttocks with a sharp knife, something that struck out to investigators; none of the other victims showed any similar wound.

Hach was known, according to fellow sex workers, for getting involved with prominent members of the local drug trade scene, some of them considered very dangerous. Therefore the possibility of Hach having been murdered because of her involvement with the organized crime was taken into account. However, shortly after she was considered another victim of the Ravine Killer.

April 6th, 1996

Two fishermen found the dead body of a woman at the bottom of a cliff near Aguadulce beach. It belonged to 24-years-old Aurora Amador Carmona, a known street walker at El Zapillo. She was naked and she had been strangled to death after being raped. She had suffered a broken jaw and broken cervical vertebrae too. The killer pushed her down the cliff once she was dead. The aforementioned injuries were not caused by the fall, acording to the forensic team, but instead were the result of a brutal beating.

Some fellow street walkers had seen her the night before jumping into a car, presumedly with a client. It was a 3-door grey Opel Corsa and, although they could not remember the whole license plate they said that the last three digits were "5-AB". With this information, investigators managed to trace down the car. And they were very sure they had their man.

The car belonged to a prison guard from Granada, a city some 100 km (60 mi) northwest of Almería. The investigators worked up the case and by the fall of 1996 they had interviewed many of his coworkers and family, as well as doing an extensive background check on him. They found out that he had been arrested once for sexual assault, could place him in Almería at the time of five of the murders, and his coworkers and superiors at the prison said that he was very violent. He had been formally admonished many times because of his violent outbursts and according to his coworkers, in one instance he threatened a fellow guard (a woman) with a hatchet over a small disagreement. He was single and lived with his elderly mother.

The hunt was on; with this info, the investigators requested permission to wiretap his phone, which they thought would give them the definitive piece of evidence to prove that the prison guard from Granada was the Ravine Killer. However, their request was denied from Madrid, and the funds for the case were relocated to another one that from the Central Administration they thought it was more pressing. Although they never managed to get the prison guard arrested, these investigators contacted several prominent police agencies across Europe and North America. In 2006, in a last effort to keep the case alive they sent the official investigation documents to these agencies with the hopes of them finding a new angle that could lead to the capture of the killer.


Aurora Amador was the last official victim of the Ravine Killer, but many of those involved in the investigation believe that it's quite possible that there are more victims. A woman was found naked and bludgeoned to death near the same place where Nadia Hach was found, in 1998. The woman could be identified, but it has never been clear if she was a sex worker. LE has never completely discarded the possibility of her being the eleventh victim.

Map with the places where all the ten victims were found;

His victims shared a common pattern; except for the 1988 unidentified female all them were short brunettes with long curly hairs and with dark olive skin (Hach and Katty were both of Northern African descent). All them aged around 25. Eight of the ten women were confirmed street walkers, coming from dysfunctional households and had drug addiction issues. His MO was quite regular; he picked them up, drove them to solitary places in the night. Once there, and away from people that could help them, he raped them with great violence, after which he'd strangle them to death. Once dead he would strip them completely naked -except when the victim was wearing something red, which he wouldn't remove- and finally dump them, usually down a ravine or a cliff.

The Granada prison guard was fired from his job sometime later in 1997, presumedly after several disciplinary calls due to his violent behavior.

In November of 2006 Germany's LE found and arrested Volker Eckert, a German truck driver. Eckert, who worked for a truck company transporting vegetables across Europe, was proven to having killed at least five prostitutes in France and Spain. He is suspected to having killed many more in these countries, as well as others in Germany, Italy and the Czech Republic. He was considered a suspect for the Ravine Killer case, but could never be proven. Not only his MO didn't match, but also no one could put him in Southern Spain at the time of the murders; his victims in Spain, all them foreinger prostitutes, were killed in Catalonia, some 800 km (500 mi) north of Alicante. On July 2nd, 2007 Eckert was found dead on his prison cell at Bayreuth, Germany. He had committed suicide by hanging.

The Ravine Killer case expired in 2016, 20 years after the death of the last confirmed victim. As for 2019, the time and resources invested on it, both in Spain and other countries, are currently minimal to non-existent.

Sources (Spanish)

Volker Eckert's wiki page (English);
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2019.04.06 03:36 DagaVanDerMayer [Unexplained Death] Who was "Marysia Sierotka"? Old mystery from Poland

Doe cases in Polish media are rare, especially old ones, so I think this one is worth sharing with you all. This write up is basically translation of Jacek Harłukowicz's 2013 article from „Gazeta Wyborcza” newspaper: here is the original – paywalled and here you can find copy-paste.
It's the first time I'm translating one proper article instead of compiling new English text from many sources, so please forgive me any language mistakes.
On her grave there's only date of death. Her death was investigated in 70s by Milicja Obywatelska [Citizens' Militia, equivalent of police in socialist Poland – DVDM.]. Unsuccessfully. Who was she?
It's not hard to find her. Section number 123N/745, main alley of Cmentarz Osobowicki [Osobowice Cementary, Wrocław, Lower Silesia, Poland – DVDM]. Within easy reach – graves not longer than one meter [3 ft – DVDM]. There are only diminutive names on the tombstones: Agatka, Piotruś, Madzia [diminutive forms of names: Agata, Piotr, Magdalena – DVDM].
Some graves are forgotten. I've noticed the one of hers 10 years ago, when by chance I went to that area of the cementary. It was collapsing. There was no slab on its liner. On the tombstone made of terrazzo – they don't make them like this these days, a simple mixture of water, cement and plaster – faded lettering: In Holy Memory of „Marysia Sierotka” [Maria the Little Orphan – DVDM], died April, 6 1976. Plus typical in this part of cementary: „She enlarged the circle of angels” [phrase often used on children's graves in Poland – DVDM].
There was some flowers and burned out grave candle.
I've found this grave again in 2010. Again by chance. I've recognized it only by the gravestone, because grave itself looked totally different – golden granite, visible lettering. And new inscription: „Sleep, little angel”. On the grave – plaster figurine. It was contrasting with graves nearby, where many of them are mounds with a plate and a cross. Often the rotten one. Only this inscription was bothering me: „Marysia Sierotka”. Is it a real name? Why there is only date of death? What about date of birth?
Few months later I've found Marysia's story on the one of blogs. According to the urban legend shared there girl was living in non-existent children's home on Lekcyjna Street.
„She came to the home in postwar Wrocław. She couldn't tell her name, age, whose she is. Only obvious thing was – that's how it was seen by those who met her and took care of her – the fact she was the most beloved, the most wonderful child in the world. This kind of child who will get even love of children's home staff. Nobody remembers why she died. She couldn't be more than six or seven. But I'm sure her death brought true sadness, despair and tears of caretakers.”
Bolesław's find
In march of 2013 I've contacted the management of the children's home. Institution was then runned by Stowarzyszenie „Nasz Dom” [„Our Home” Association – DVDM] (now it's Wrocławskie Centrum Opieki i Wychowania [Care and Education Center of Wrocław – DVDM]). I was looking for the documents that would lead me to the girl's trail. Principal Hanna Jednaszewska checked out archives. It turned out that „Marysia Sierotka” was never here.
In Zarząd Cmentarzy Komunalnych [Board of Municipal Cementeries – DVDM] there was an uphill battle, too. In the middle of 2013 principal Zofia Kluszycka hadn't really wanted to talk about the grave. Anyway she claimed that she doesn't know much about it. Yes, there is a grave like this. It was renovated 3 years earlier and private person who founded gravestone, doesn't want to reveal his/her name.
However, with time distrust of the principal has passed. Together we established that Marysia wasn't girl's name. She was named after her death. And indeed, she wasn't living in children's home on Lekcyjna Street. Or in any other. In her birth certificate – that is death certificate at the same time – there's no name or surname, date and place of birth.
In sections, where these informations are usually entered, then „deputy menager of Urząd Stanu Cywilnego [Registry Office – DVDM] Teresa Bęben” typed: „On April 6, 1976 on city dump on Bardzka Street in Wrocław there was found by citizen [blackened], living in Wrocław on [blackened] Street, dead female fetus of so far unidentified mother. The childbirth occured on April 5, 1976. Fetus was born dead, weighs 1 kilogram [2,20 lb – DVDM], is 36 centimeters [14 inches – DVDM] long. From research done in this area and external examination of the fetus it appears that fetus is at about six months gestation.” [original spelling]
There is also annonation that „certificate was based on document of headquaters of Milicja Obywatelska in Wrocław from April 12, 1976”. Plus signature of case.
In today Komenda Wojewódzka Policji [Provincial Police Headquaters – DVDM] in Wrocław I haven't found any trace of that investigation. Nearly 40 years passed. The case was not about murder, more about abadonment. Files probably are catching dust, forgotten, in the archives or were destroyed.
But we can determine information about the man who on April 6, 1976, found Marysia's little body on Bardzka Street. I don't know much about him. His name was Bolesław Tomczyk, he was then 48 years old. He died on May, 30 1996. He was buried on Cmentarz Grabiszyński [Grabiszyn Cementary – DVDM]. His burial took place on Children's Day [June, 1 in Poland – DVDM].
There are no witnesses
„City dump on Bardzka Street” from 1976 now is Wzgórze Gajowe [Gaj Hill – DVDM]. Residents of blocks of flats situated nearby call it „Wysyp”. Before World War II German fertilizer factory Silesia was working here and after Adolf Hitler came to power in 1933, one of the first concentration camps for fuhrer's political opponents – KZ Durrgoy – was organized here.
After the war rubble from destroyed Breslau buildings was transported here, as well as municipal waste. Here in 1958 Andrzej Wajda shot the last scene of „Popiół i diament” [„Ashes and Diamonds” - DVDM]. That one when Maciek Chełmicki, played by Zbigniew Cybulski, dies on a pile of rubbish.
When in April 1976 Bolesław Tomczyk appeared on the dump, there was no trace of the movie nor blocks of flats. The blocks will be built three years later. That's why when I was going round the neighbourhood and trying to ask residents about this story, nobody could say anything.
-They'd started building first plattenbau blocks here in 1979, so you rather won't find here anyone who remembers this kind of things – muses older man, whose I'm bugging on Srebrnogórska Street. Anyway he had never heard about any Marysia, especially the Little Orphan. Except this one from Konopnicka. [Maria Konopnicka's fairy tale „Little Orphan Mary and the Gromes”, popular in Poland – DVDM].
Hill itself still is rather scarying than encouraging for walks. Yes, there were great plans – including building indoor ski slope, similar to this in „Mall of Emirates” in Dubai, but it ended on the plans. Last year somebody submitted the project – to create here within the Wrocławski Budżet Obywatelski [Citizens Budget of Wrocław – DVDM] recreation space with bike paths, but the project lost the vote. It got 294 votes.
Nice tombstone in stock
10 years after I've found Marysia for the first time and 5 years after somebody put up a proper gravestone for her, I reached a man who decided that Little Orphan can't lie in the crumbling grave.
Andrzej Płocki passes her grave from nearly 40 years. His brother is buried nearby. Five years ago he decided he can't look anymore on the decaying grave. He didn't know her story. He took legend circulating online for the truth. He is stonecutter, he works in graves from 42 years. He runs the plant in the neighbourhood of Cmentarz Osobowicki. It's family business. In addition to him and his wife, his two daughers and son-in-law are working here.
-For many years, like many people, we were lighing the candles, wife was bringing fresh flowers. There is something in this inscription „Marysia Sierotka” that doesn't allow a man to pass by – he says calmly, when we're already standing over her grave. He rearranges flowers, sweeps up fallen leaves from the gravestone.
-When our grandchildren were born, we have started to look differently at children and the tragedies of parents who are losing them. When parent come to order a gravestone for his child, I'm crying with him – adds Jolanta Płocka.
-And with Marysia it was an impulse. It was before All Saints' Day. We just had a nice children's tombstone in stock. I've asked my husband: maybe we'll put it up for Little Orphan?
They replaced old terrazzo with Indian granite. Market value – at least several thousand zlotys. They didn't take a penny. Because from whom?
Cementary menagement, which must each time give official permission to replace the gravestone, approached the replacement kindly. They even didn't demand fees, customary on such occassions. For example for entering the cementary area by car. Because the tombstone had to be delivered somehow.
Now Marysia Sierotka lies in one of the prettiest sections on her area. The plaster angel, that Jolanta Płocka bought on Allegro [Polish auction site, similar to eBay – DVDM], stands undisturbed from 5 years. Although there is a lot of thefts on the cementary. Angel has a rosary in its hands. It's the only thing that remained from the old grave. An elderly woman who stops at the Marysia's grave at first eyeballs me, but later, pointing the rosary, says: And only it remained after the child.
She rearranges the daisies that I brought a moment earlier.
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2018.09.15 02:12 fuckinghell10001 Where is 8-year-old Joana Cipriano? One of the most infamous disappearance cases in Portugal ever continues partially unsolved 14 years later (warning: HUGE rabbit hole)

Alright, guys, get ready for the rollercoaster. You’re about to witness some abhorrent police work. By the way, Gonçalo Amaral was part of this. For those of you who don't know, he was the lead investigator in the Madeleine Mccann case. For all of you who still have any faith on the Portuguese police work in the Mccann case, perhaps this will add a new perspective. This will be really long because I want you guys to REALLY have a full picture of what happened. A link to the Wikipedia article (in English) will be provided below, but I have to say, I did a lot of research on this, so I’m sorta proud of all the info I could gather for my first post. This is a HUGE rabbit hole.

First, I’ll give you some context about each suspect’s and the victim’s life and their personalities. I think it’s important.

Joana Cipriano
Joana was a very sweet 8-year-old girl that everyone in the village of Figueira really liked. She was, however, seen as a child with very sad eyes and very quiet. People in the village used to help her plenty of times, as her family was very poor and she was tremendously neglected. In fact, she very often never had anything to eat and her mother wouldn’t even care enough to give her antibiotics when she had pneumonia. If it wasn’t for the neighbors, she would’ve died. She also took care of the house, cooked and took care of her own clothes. In fact, she would even fetch her mom and stepdad many times at the café when it was time for them to come back home. She would also walk 2km to school everyday. Her teacher said she was a child that longed for affection. All she wanted was a real home where she could be a child again, as she was forced to grow up too fast. And that’s all she drew in class. Drawings after drawings of houses.

Leonor Cipriano
Leonor was Joana’s mother, who also had a rough life herself. Coming from a very poor and broken family home, her father was an abusive drunk. Her mother finally had the courage to leave when Leonor was still a child. However, her mother could only find jobs in the fields, planting all kinds of things, so she never led a great life anyway. This is no excuse for her behavior, I’m just giving you some background. She was seen as an incredibly negligent woman who never took care of herself nor the kids and would often fall asleep and forget to even feed them. She divorced Paulo Jorge, Joana’s biological father and married António Leandro. There were also rumors that her and António were abusing Joana physically and maybe sexually. She was also described as unstable.

João Cipriano
There’s not much to say about him but it’s important to know that João had a very sketchy past, with some criminal record already on his back (couldn’t find what he did) and some people gave accounts of him being a liar. He was Leonor’s brother and was there visiting the day when Joana disappeared. He was described by many as cold and calculist.

Carlos Jorge
Carlos Jorge was one of the suspects for a few years, I’ll develop on that later. He was a friend of António Cipriano and worked with him in his scrap metal business. Apparently, Leonor did not like him, but she would still let him come by and sleep in the living room, sometimes even in Joana’s bedroom, but only when she wanted to stay up late watching tv, according to Joana's grandmother. Just another example of Leonor’s negligence.

The disappearance
On the 12th of September of 2004, around 7:30pm (speculation on my part that I took from statements), Joana went to the grocery store to get 2 cans of tuna and a carton of milk. According to her mother, she never came home. The police was alerted by Leonor and the case got immediate national coverage. Leonor feared that Joana was kidnapped on her way home, as this was an especially busy day: a party was happening that day in the village of Berbigão, and there were a lot of unkown people walking around.

The shitshow The investigation
1st theory:
The police started collecting every statement they could from family, friends and dozens of other people from the village, including people from the village over where Joana used to live with her family before her mother divorced her father. Speculations about a kidnap were strong, especially since it's in Algarve (where Madeleine disappeared – surprise surprise), and a rumor of a man with a violent history of sexual assault being around the area that day.

Leonor and António are then held in police custody, being interrogated for hours on end, with no lawyer present. After they collected their testemonies, the police came to the conclusion that they very likely sold their daughter to a german couple due to their financial conditions and therefore to give her a better life. The mother then regretted her decisions and thought that maybe if she said that Joana was kidnapped, the people involved in the process would get scared and return her. Leonor herself denies this to Correio da Manhã (national newspaper): “I would never do this to a child of mine”. Note that at the time it was not illegal in Portugal to sell a child for the purpose of adoption.

I just want to explain why I think this theory was thrown around so much: I think this is more of a legend now than anything but this is a big theory whenever a child goes missing here. Could have stemmed from somewhere truthful, but I have my doubts. However, what I think helped the investigators take this direction is that Leonor’s mother, Florinda Domingas, told Correio da Manhã how when her own kids were small, her boyfriend at the time came to her with the idea to sell her youngest son to a german couple who had seen him and thought he was very beautiful. See the similarities here? I don’t think it’s a coincidence they spouted this theory. Moving on.

2nd theory:
11 days later (yes, you read that right – on the 23rd of September), the police decide to look for physical clues at Joana’s house. Note that the house was not sealed up prior to this. On this day, several search parties with cadaver dogs also started searching the immediate area around her house.

A new theory emerges again from the police: Leonor and João beat Joana to death because of some inheritance left to her by her grandmother. The police end up arresting both for murder and concealment of a body (I’m doing a literal translation here, if there is a legal term for this in English, let me know) and excavations were performed around the house where Joana used to live, in search for her body. Note that Leonor and now João are being interrogated almost every day for hours on end, eventually getting a lawyer but much, much later than they should (i think around November).

In the meantime, the police results from the home search are divulged. Several traces of blood and saliva were found throughout the house, on Joana’s clothes and also on a mop handle, as well as the bag with the 2 tuna cans and milk.

Leonor and her brother continue to be interrogated, day after day, giving the police several different accounts of where the body is, which prove to be false every single time. I’d like to also add that these are people with very little to no education – usually this generation in Portugal only has 4th grade education. Again, with no lawyer present.

3rd theory:
Around the beginning of October, the new theory from the police is that Joana was actually beaten to death because she came home and her mother and uncle demanded the change from the small shopping, which she didn’t give to them, and they beat her to death.

Ever since the first accusations, Leonor insists on her innocence in several statements to the press and to the loved ones who visit her in jail, saying she was at her mother’s house and that her brother had left the house while Joana was out running said errands. And then she simply didn’t come home.

26 days later, the police finally alerts the Spanish police force and searches begin to be conducted in international territory.

The police competence starts being questioned by the media (yes, only now).

4th and final theory that prevails to this day:
A few weeks later, the police releases yet another theory. Leonor and João were having an incestuous relationship. Joana caught them and João killed her. Then António and Carlos transported the body in António’s red Honda, disposed of her body and then disposed of the car at the scrap metal yard. A witness confirms seeing a hauling vehicle with a red car on top of it parked near Joana’s house a few days after Joana disappeared, and then at 3 am it was gone, but came back at 5am, with no red car anymore.

A couple of days later, Correio da Manhã reports that they cut Joana to pieces and fed her to the pigs in a pigpen somewhere near, a theory that was thrown around 2/3 weeks earlier, was abandoned like the other 3, and is now the leading theory again, to this day.

Another clue comes to light, as a farmer recounts seeing João running away from one of the fields where the police searched for the body, two days after the little girl’s disappearance. This particular field was surrounded with empty houses and a few pigpens. Investigators search the pigpens and say they have found fibers that were similar to Joana's clothes (although they never found her clothes) and hairs that seemed to belong to Joana.

The results from the blood drops in the house are released: inconclusive is the result, although I found another article where they say one of the investigators states it is not Joana's blood, but they don't know whose blood is it. Leonor and several people from António's family say these were probably coming from a swarm of ticks they had had, that the dogs brought inside the house. They killed a lot of them by stepping on them.

In the meantime, António's scrap metal yard is searched and there is no sign of the car. He also says that he had indeed a red car on his hauling truck, but he left it at his mother's house with Carlos the day that Joana disappeared and then went looking for her.

Even MORE police misconduct
This is a huge rabbit hole in itself, so unfortunately I will have to keept it short but the details are abominale. If you guys want it, I can post some trial details the comments.
Leonor stated that, ever since the first interview, she was beaten by the police in order for them to get a confession out of her. She was kicked, punched, and beaten with several objects over the head. She was later sent to the hospital with severe bruises. However, the official police statement says that these bruises stemmed from her attempted suicide by throwing herself down the stairs. See some of the bruises yourself, here, here, and a few more here. There are other accounts of blood stains on her chair in the interrogation room but the investigators say that these were because Leonor was on her period and didn't take any extra precautions for it. Family members of Leonor state that Joana's mother was told to say that she tried to kill herself, as they recall from their weekly visits to prison.

The state launches an investigation on Leonel Marques, Paulo Pereira Cristóvão, Paulo Marques Bom and Gonçalo Amaral (the one from the Mccann case - he was accused of making false statements), all the inspectors involved. They were all acquitted. A big part of it was because the pictures of her injures were deemed manipulated and the doctors who saw her said the pictures didn't correspond to what they saw in person. You can see one of them here.

More details come to light
In May 2005, as the trial is still ongoing, the police releases more details from the final theory. Note that this theory came after Leonor's allegations of police misconduct and after the pictures of her bruises were already out in the news. This time, however, it was João who confessed: him and Leonor were having sex. Joana came home, saw them and threatened to tell António, so her uncle slapped her and she hit a wall, fell and tried to run away. Leonor grabbed her head and banged it on the wall till she was dead. Then, António and Carlos, under the guidance of Leonor, cut Joana's body - first, they seperated the head from the spine, then cut all the limbs and put them into 5 plastic bags. They put the bags in a freezer (which was also inspected and no traces of blood were found) and then at night put the bags inside a car from António's scrap metal yard, along with the tools used to cut the body and drove to another scrap metal in Spain, after having cut the body into even smaller pieces, where it was all incinerated. The official version of the events is still that she was fed to the pigs. However, according to this article (in portuguese only), this version didn't hold in court for lack of evidence. I guess people just like to throw it around because it's the most shocking.

Carlos Alberto, the half-brother of António, is accused of sexually abusing Joana, as semen was found on her clothes and mattress that could be his. Flores, his mother, recalls Leonor telling her that Carlos Alberto used to go to their place a lot of times. He is not charged. However, a new investigation related to Joana's alleged sexual abuse is opened. A lot of people from Figueira already had their suspicions about it, and this newly found piece of evidence erased all questions. Also, António and Carlos Jorge are acquitted as well and the official version of what happened that night, as told before, is that Joana's body was fed to the pigs.

In june 2005, the other sister of João and Leonor reveals that her brother wrote her a letter from prison, telling her how Leonor sold the child and that she is alive in Spain. Leonor still denies knowing what happened to the child.

During the trial in 2005, 2 out of the 3 judges of the Supreme Court find the case unconstitutional and illegal. They state that the case was built upon João's statements, with no physical evidence of that having actually happened. Still, it was not enough to deter a conviction and Leonor and João were convicted to 16 and 19 years respectively (for reference, the maximum sentence in Portugal is 25 years).

He-she said
The trial did have some extensions (I don't know how to explain it better, I don't know much about law) where some more witnesses were heard and some new accusations came to light:
-2007: João reveals that he is innocent and only confessed under threats from the investigators, who told him they would stab him if he didn't do it. In 2008, he also reveals he was tortured at the same time as his sister.

- 2008: Leonor accuses her brother of killing Joana because the process of selling her to someone else did not go as planned; a sale that she agreed to make.

- Around 2009 - 2012, João admits that he tried to sell Joana, but the sale went wrong. He then tells the investigators how he buried her body somewhere around the house.

Till this day, the jury of that case still has their doubts about the sentence. This case is a sad one, and what's even sadder is that we'll probably never know what happened to Joana. Personally, I think she was being sexually abused by her family members, one of them accidentally killed her (possibly an uncle) and they all helped hiding the body. I don't have a theory for how they did it, however. Here's the Wikipedia article -
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2018.02.18 10:39 13D00 Thanks for this amazing night!!!

For me, it all started when we organized a meetup in front of the Starbucks at Utrecht Centraal. Who knew there are 2 Starbucks shops over there 😂😂. 1 hour later we all came together, ate some pasta at Julia's, and walked towards the city to get a drink with the 8(?) Of us. Dutchies, Americans, American/Germans, Canadians, Israeli. All together for a beer in a nice little restaurant.
Almost 9 o clock, heading towards the Jaarbeurs to start the festival! We could hear the music through the streets of Utrecht. The hype was getting greater with every single step.
Inside! GROUP FOTO!!! There! In front of the ASOT sign! Get your flags up! Quick!
Cool now we got that photo done, lets continue down the line, whats next? The lockers! Leave all the stuff you dont need! (DON'T LEAVE YOUR EAR PROTECTION IN YOUR JACKET THOUGH #experience)
That done, lets get inside! Damn look at all this food!! Look at the chill vibe at the Radio Dome, but most of all; LOOK, the entrance to the Mainstage!
The music already started, the lights were already flashing, and the hall was filling up slowly.
"Let's move forward!" Is the last thing I can completely remember in chronological order. However I can remember getting myself one of those ASOT unlimited water bottles, a couple beers, some chips, and a pizza slice.
I can also remember losing everybody I met today. Not so bad though, dont worry. Solo partying is my thang! I turned my phone back online, and asked in the group where the f everybody was. Wellp back to Mainstage! Yeej reunited and lets party for the last couple of hours!
Right now things get a little bit more clear again, we all found each other at the entrance of the Mainstage and planned to meet at the end of the festival near the radio dome for another group picture.
Another group picture done, had to be done a couple of times as the group started to fill up bit by bit. And there we went, on our way to the lockers, on our way to the trainstation, figuring out a way to get to the other side of the trainstation to avoid the huge line at the ticket machines and there we went, getting a coffee and a train home, or to the airport, or to anywhere else we had to go.
Thanks for this amazing night, and thanks for creating a whatsapp group so I could meet all of you guys, and girls :)
Tl;dr The title says it all, if you want to know more about last night, read the rest of the text :)
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2017.11.22 12:32 GeneralCusterVLX 17-year-old German teenager vanishes from her surprise birthday party and is found dead 29 hours later. Investigators are struggling to piece together what happened.

A fairly recent German case I’ve found intriguing and like to share, as it is pretty mysterious case of a young girl vanishing during her own surprise birthday party. 17-year-old Paula Maaßen from Recklinghausen, Germany, went missing over 7 months ago, only to turn up dead 29 hours later on train tracks near the city of Herne. First thought to be a tragic suicide the police are puzzled by several aspects uncovered while investigating the case, that possibly point in a different direction. What happened during the 29 hours Paula was missing?
Setting the scene
(skip this part if you’re familiar with the regions and being a teenager in Germany, this is just to give some context)
Situated at the northmost tip of the Rhein Ruhr Metropolitan area, in Germany’s largest state Northrhine Westphalia, Recklinghausen is a more than thousand years old city which is internationally known for its cultural festival the “Ruhrfestspiele”. With its almost 115.000 inhabitants it is the 60th-largest city in Germany characterized by a rural and agricultural north and an industrial south. The next largest city is Herne, which boarders Recklinghausen to the south. Both cities are connected not only via Autobahn, but also Germany’s extensive public transportation network consisting of buses, trains and subways. If you are a teenager going to school or a student it’s very likely that you have monthly ticket for students, which basically lets you use the entire public transportation system within your town for a comparatively low monthly fee. Public transportation options are available around the clock, but there are fewer trains and buses after midnight and on weekends.
What’s turning 17 and being a teenager in Germany like?
17 is the “in-between” age, while you might be finished with school and are now allowed to get a preliminary driver’s license, which only allows you to drive accompanied by an adult, turning 16 or 18 is way more interesting. At 16 you get your government ID, can go to clubs and bars until midnight on your own, buy and drink alcohol (except hard liquor) and a bunch of other stuff. With turning 18 you can do whatever you want because you are an adult now. I grew up in a city a bit larger than Herne and we would usually go to bars, clubs, house parties or meet in a park with some booze doing shenanigans. Since we all had a student tickets we would go to the larger cities to shop or party. Just walk into the next bus or train and go wherever it takes you.
A surprise party
Paula Maaßen turned 17 on the 5th of April. Little did she know that her mother had teamed up with some friends and classmates of the school her daughter was attending, to surprise her with a birthday party that Friday the 7th of April. Together they decorated the families garage with colorful chain lights, festoons and a happy birthday banner. After getting snacks and some booze, everything was ready for Paula to arrive at the garage at 18 o’clock. She was really happy being surprised by twelve of her friends and her mother and the party got started. There was dancing, celebrating and drinking. Everyone got at least a bit tipsy. Some friends started leaving around midnight, as it became increasingly difficult to catch a bus or train home. Two of her male friends who came all the way from Bochum to celebrate her birthday asked Paula if they could sleep over, as is difficult to get back to Bochum at that hour. Bochum is about 45 minutes from Recklinghausen, but at night it might take up to an hour involving several transfers to other trains. If they miss one, they might get stuck waiting for an hour or so. Of course, Paula agreed. Around that time the last photo of her being alive was taken.
An argument ensues and Paula leaves
Unfortunately, she hadn’t spoken with her mother beforehand if she would allow the friends to stay over. Her mother got irritated by Paula not asking, but Paula just stomped into their apartment and started setting up sleeping places for her friends, taking the decision into her own hands. Fed up with her pigheaded attitude Paula’s mother started an argument, protesting the boys staying over without her prior consent. During all this the party was still going on with the remaining guests and nobody noticed that Paula had taken off around 12:30am, frustrated with her mother’s arguing. After a while it became obvious to her that her Daughter was missing, so she organized a search party with the remaining guests. Paula hadn’t taken a jacket with her and it was 8° Celsius outside, surely, she couldn’t have gone far only wearing a Star Wars long sleeve, leather pants and turquois sneakers. They searched the area surrounding the garage and the apartment, finding Paula’s cellphone no more than 100m from their apartment. The police were contacted, and relatives were mobilized to look for Paula, who was nowhere to be found. Searching continued throughout Saturday the 8th of April to no avail. This wasn’t what Paula was like, she never ran away before.
On Sunday the 9th of April at 5:25am the phone rang at the local police station. The German Railway Company reported that one of their conductors noticed a body lying on the tracks opposite of the ones his train was on, at the underpass Holsterhauser street. Paula was found after 29 hours 6,5km (police say it was 8km) from her parents’ apartment, sadly she was deceased.
The investigation
Where she was found:,7.2066706,188m/data=!3m1!1e3 (near the left track under the bridge)
Picture of the search under the bridge
The general area is remote, fairly secluded and there is not much around there. Only points of interest in the surrounding area might be a gas station, an ATM machine at a bank and a McDonalds that is open until 5am in the morning. Other than that, there is no real reason to go to that area at that time of the night. While it may be a quiet enough place to commit suicide, family members object that theory, because they say it would be out of character for Paula and her stubborn nature.
The autopsy revealed that she had a polytrauma consistent with being run over by a train, but there were also other injuries which suggest it might not have been an accident or a suicide. Her body temperature was way above the outdoor temperature (3° Celsius that night/morning), so the police concluded that she couldn’t have died that long ago. She also was inebriated quite a bit, not totally drunk, but more than a bit tipsy. Besides alcohol no drugs were found in her system. Police believe that she must have been somewhere inside, as she would have probably suffered from hypothermia walking around outside for more than a day with temperatures so low.
With help of the German Railway Company the police could identify the train that most likely hit Paula and established a window of time between Saturday 9:42pm and Sunday 3:15am in which that could have taken place. It is difficult to tell with certainty, as the train’s conductor didn’t notice hitting someone at the moment it happened. The train was going from Gelsenkirchen to Bochum. It is one of three different passenger trains passing that area every day.
The police used mantrail dogs to reconstruct how she traveled the 8km, but couldn’t establish anything. They publicly stated that they are very certain that she used some means of transportation and did not walk to where she was found, but they never released why they are so certain that this was the case. The most likely rout to Herne at that time of the night would be the night bus, as the subway or trains require several transfers to get there.
For reference, Google Maps suggestion on how to get from Paula's house to the train tracks she was found on:,+45661+Recklinghausen/51.5323645,7.2066908/@51.5778113,7.2011564,188m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m9!4m8!1m5!1m1!1s0x47b8e3b019e7931f:0xa7360353ba1b8292!2m2!1d7.2012373!2d51.5781242!1m0!3e2
Food for thought
What really happened? Was it an accident, was it suicide or was it a foul play? To the police the most important clue is finding out what happened between Paula running away at 12:30am and being found at 5:25am. Surely somebody must have seen her wandering around or using public transportation in chilly weather wearing only a long sleeve. That’s why in June the police posted a 3000€ reward on information regarding that 29-hour time window that would help them crack the case and answer what really happened to her.
An interesting aspect making me believe there is more to this than a mere suicide is that the criminal investigation department got involved quite early on. Additionally, the press covered Paul’s death extensively, which wouldn’t be the case if it actually were confirmed a suicide. The German press codex advises against reporting in detail on suicides, as to protect the privacy of those involved as well as to prevent the “Werther-Effect”. This effect suggests a causal relationship between the portrayal of suicide in the media and an increased rate of suicide as result of the news coverage and the attention.
What got me really thinking was the blood alcohol level. We know she had been drinking on Friday, but how can we explain that she was at least somewhat tipsy when she died. Had she also been drinking on Saturday evening?
What are your ideas on what happened to her?
Video of the location they found her body:
Video of a possible route from her parents’ home to the location:
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2016.05.04 15:04 mrx1983 Someone pulling informations about the Pony Movie

A few days ago informations about the upcoming 2017 movie where shown on a Russian Brony Con.
Many Blogs and Sites reported that, and now it seems that someone tries to silence this.
Many Blogs already removed the informations, videos where deleted, twitter posts killed.
I wonder why they do that. they should have expected that we talk about this stuff as soon as it is shown on some brony convention.
Everyone should save the informations, before everything is gone.
You can still find informations about the movie here:
a subbed version of the presentation is here:!4Jc1nBxa!sKgN8rz6q-MawYveT9GS-pfFyQpXdBZp_jhTYasTtkI
also here is a quick breakdown:
  1. She says the characters will undergo "changes", followed by groans from the audience.
  2. First 4-5 minutes are full of "look how well MLP is doing
  3. Theatrical Show based on Equestria Girls this autumn/winter in 50 cities of Russia
  4. Initial release date of the movie was the 3rd of November 2017, but it probably will be moved to earlier, maybe summer 2017
  5. Spike confirmed for movie
  6. It will be like Lord of the Rings, but about Poneh
  7. Trouble came to Equestria; there will be many baddies, many evil characters
  8. I'll make one small spoiler: for a portion of the movie, our main characters will transform into other creatures
  9. Our ponies will have to venture beyond Equestria and enter a giant, scary, alien world
  10. There will be pirates, hippogryphs, a lot of new songs
  11. TS and Spike write invitations to a party; this is how the movie starts, some mega-new star's gonna sing, but then suddenly trouble
  12. And it all will be ruined, and ponies will be captured (Someone asked if the images are from the movie, they aren't)
  13. Ponies will become mermaids. The mermaid transformation will be a "necessary measure".
  14. They'll go to those who already faced these "evil ponies and ask them for advice
  15. They'll dive into an underground (she said "underground") kingdom and talk with the sea ponies who live there"
  16. They'll have these funny air bubbles around their heads
edit: found 2 translated pics on a german site.
edit: found drwolf001 analyse video on youku.
(Spoilers) My Little Pony Movie News!
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2016.01.29 15:52 PachecoYYa =rand(1)

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(39 letters) (From flavor text in a card in the Magic: the Gathering card game[3]) The lazy major was fixing Cupid’s broken quiver. (39 letters) (Includes proper noun) Amazingly few discotheques provide jukeboxes. (40 letters) (only 5 words – fewer than all others in this list) Jacky can now give six big tips from the old quiz. (40 letters) Lovak won the squad prize cup for sixty big jumps. (40 letters) J. Fox made five quick plays to win the big prize. (40 letters) Foxy diva Jennifer Lopez wasn’t baking my quiche. (41 letters) (Includes proper noun) Cozy lummox gives smart squid who asks for job pen. (41 letters) (Used for font samples by the Macintosh, post-System 7, as well as on certain Palm products) By Jove, my quick study of lexicography won a prize. (41 letters) (Includes proper noun) Levi Lentz packed my bag with six quarts of juice. (41 letters) Painful zombies quickly watch a jinxed graveyard. (42 letters) Fax back Jim’s Gwyneth Paltrow video quiz. (42 letters) (Includes proper nouns) As quirky joke, chefs won’t pay devil magic zebra tax. (42 letters) My girl wove six dozen plaid jackets before she quit. (43 letters) Then a cop quizzed Mick Jagger’s ex-wives briefly. (43 letters) (Includes proper noun) Six big devils from Japan quickly forgot how to waltz. (44 letters) (Includes proper noun) “Who am taking the ebonics quiz?”, the prof jovially axed. (44 letters) Why shouldn’t a quixotic Kazakh vampire jog barefoot? (44 letters) (Includes proper noun) Grumpy wizards make a toxic brew for the jovial queen. (44 letters) Sixty zips were quickly picked from the woven jute bag. (45 letters) Big July earthquakes confound zany experimental vow. (45 letters) (Includes proper noun) Foxy parsons quiz and cajole the lovably dim wiki-girl. (45 letters) Cute, kind, jovial, foxy physique, amazing beauty? Wowser! (45 letters) Have a pick: twenty-six letters — no forcing a jumbled quiz! (46 letters) A very big box sailed up then whizzed quickly from Japan. (46 letters) Battle of Thermopylae: Quick javelin grazed wry Xerxes. (46 letters) (Includes proper nouns) Jack quietly moved up front and seized the big ball of wax. (47 letters) (Includes proper noun) Few black taxis drive up major roads on quiet hazy nights. (47 letters) Just poets wax boldly as kings and queens march over fuzz. (47 letters) Bored? Craving a pub quiz fix? Why, just come to the Royal Oak! (47 letters) (Used to advertise a pub quiz in Bowness-on-Windermere) Quincy Pondexter blocked five jams against the Wizards! (47 letters) (Includes proper nouns) Crazy Frederick bought many very exquisite opal jewels. (48 letters) (Includes proper noun) A quivering Texas zombie fought republic linked jewelry. (48 letters) (Includes proper noun) Grumpy wizards make toxic brew for the evil queen and jack. (48 letters) (Used by Google Fonts) The job of waxing linoleum frequently peeves chintzy kids. (49 letters) Back in June we delivered oxygen equipment of the same size. (49 letters) (Includes proper noun) Just keep examining every low bid quoted for zinc etchings. (49 letters) (Used in many type specimen books for letterpress printers) How razorback-jumping frogs can level six piqued gymnasts! (49 letters) (Used for font samples by the Macintosh, System 7 era) A quick movement of the enemy will jeopardize six gunboats. (49 letters) All questions asked by five watched experts amaze the judge. (49 letters) Bobby Klun awarded Jayme sixth place for her very high quiz. (50 letters) The wizard quickly jinxed the gnomes before they vaporized. (50 letters) Zelda might fix the job growth plans very quickly on Monday. (50 letters) Zack Gappow saved the job requirement list for the six boys. (50 letters) Jackie will budget for the most expensive zoology equipment. (51 letters) Quirky spud boys can jam after zapping five worthy Polysixes. (51 letters) (Includes proper noun) Jim quickly realized that the beautiful gowns are expensive. (51 letters) English phonetic pangrams Pangrams which use all the phonemes, or phones, of English (rather than alphabetic characters): “With tenure, Suzie’d have all the more leisure for yachting, but her publications are no good.” (for certain US accents and phonological analyses) “Shaw, those twelve beige hooks are joined if I patch a young, gooey mouth.” (perfect for certain accents with the cot-caught merger) “Are those shy Eurasian footwear, cowboy chaps, or jolly earthmoving headgear?” (perfect for certain Received Pronunciation accents) “The beige hue on the waters of the loch impressed all, including the French queen, before she heard that symphony again, just as young Arthur wanted.” (a phonetic, not merely phonemic, pangram. It contains both nasals [m] and [ɱ] (as in ‘symphony’), the fricatives [x] (as in ‘loch’) and [ç] (as in ‘hue’), and the ‘dark L’ [ɫ] (as in ‘all’) - in other words, it contains different allophones.) Other languages Arabic صِف خَلقَ خَودِ كَمِثلِ الشَمسِ إِذ بَزَغَت — يَحظى الضَجيعُ بِها نَجلاءَ مِعطارِ (A poem by Al Farāhīdi) هلا سكنت بذي ضغثٍ فقد زعموا — شخصت تطلب ظبياً راح مجتازا اصبر على حفظ خضر واستشر فطنا، وزج همك في بغداذ منثملا نصٌّ حكيمٌ لهُ سِرٌّ قاطِعٌ وَذُو شَأنٍ عَظيمٍ مكتوبٌ على ثوبٍ أخضرَ ومُغلفٌ بجلدٍ أزرق naṣun ḥakymun lahu syrun qāṭiʿun wa ḏu šānin ʿẓymin maktubun ʿala ṯubin aẖḍra wa muġalafun biǧildin azraq A wise text which has an absolute secret and great importance, written on a green cloth and covered with blue leather (it has a riddle built into it) ابجد هوز حطي كلمن سعفص قرشت ثخذ ضظغ أبجد هوز ترتيب الحروف العبرية والعربية من اللغات الساميَّة Azeri Zəfər, jaketini də papağını da götür, bu axşam hava çox soyuq olacaq. Zafer (male name), take your jacket and cap, it will be very cold tonight. Breton Yec’hed mat Jakez ! Skarzhit ar gwerennoù-mañ, kavet e vo gwin betek fin ho puhez. Bulgarian Ах чудна българска земьо, полюшвай цъфтящи жита. Ah, wonderful Bulgarian land, shake the blooming wheat fields. Жълтата дюля беше щастлива, че пухът, който цъфна, замръзна като гьон. The yellow quince was happy that the fluff which bloomed froze like sole-leather. За миг бях в чужд плюшен скърцащ фотьойл. (Used for font samples by the Macintosh, in the localized System 7) For a moment I was in someone else’s plush squeaking armchair. Вкъщи не яж сьомга с фиде без ракийка и хапка люта чушчица! At home, do not eat salmon with soup noodles without rakia and a bit of hot paprika! Под южно дърво, цъфтящо в синьо, бягаше малко пухкаво зайче. Under a southern tree, blooming in blue, ran a little fluffy bunny. Шугав льохман, държащ птицечовка без сейф и ютия. A mangy lummox, holding a platypus without a safe and flat iron. Я, пазачът Вальо уж бди, а скришом хапва кюфтенца зад щайгите. Why, Valyo the guard is supposed to be watching, and yet he’s secretly eating meatballs behind the crates. Хълцайки много, въздесъщият позьор, Юрий жабока, фучеше. Hiccuping intensely, the famous poseur, Yuri the frog, was sputtering. Гномът Доцьо приключи спящ в шейна за жаби. Dotsyo the Gnome ended up sleeping in a carriage for frogs. Щиглецът се яде само пържен в юфка без чушки и хвойна. Goldfinch is only eaten fried with noodles, without peppers and juniper. Фучейки и хълцайки, кьоравият грухтящ шопар жадно стъпка зюмбюлите Snorting and whimpering, the grunting blind boar hungrily trampled the hyacinths. Хълцащ змей плюе шофьор стигнал чуждия бивак. A hiccuping dragon spits at a driver who has reached someone else’s campsite. Щурчо Цоньо хапваше ловджийско кюфте с бяла гъмза. Tsonyo the cricket was eating a hunter-style meatball with white Gamza wine. Catalan (with all letters and diacritics) «Dóna amor que seràs feliç!». Això, il•lús company geniüt, ja és un lluït rètol blavís d’onze kWh. “Give love and you’ll be happy!”. This, ingenuous fellow with bad temper, is already in a blue sign of 11kWh. (with ç) Jove xef, porti whisky amb quinze glaçons d’hidrogen, coi! Young chef, bring whisky with fifteen hydrogen ice cubes, darn! Aqueix betzol, Jan, comprava whisky de figa That idiot, Jan, was buying fig whisky Zel de grum: quetxup, whisky, cafè, bon vi; ja! Coi! quinze jans golafres de Xàtiva, beuen whisky a pams Cherokee ᎠᏍᎦᏯᎡᎦᎢᎾᎨᎢᎣᏍᏓᎤᎩᏍᏗᎥᎴᏓᎯᎲᎢᏔᎵᏕᎦᏟᏗᏖᎸᎳᏗᏗᎧᎵᎢᏘᎴᎩ ᏙᏱᏗᏜᏫᏗᏣᏚᎦᏫᏛᏄᏓᎦᏝᏃᎠᎾᏗᎭᏞᎦᎯᎦᏘᏓᏠᎨᏏᏕᏡᎬᏢᏓᏥᏩᏝᎡᎢᎪᎢ ᎠᎦᏂᏗᎮᎢᎫᎩᎬᏩᎴᎢᎠᏆᏅᏛᎫᏊᎾᎥᎠᏁᏙᎲᏐᏈᎵᎤᎩᎸᏓᏭᎷᏤᎢᏏᏉᏯᏌᏊ ᎤᏂᏋᎢᏡᎬᎢᎰᏩᎬᏤᎵᏍᏗᏱᎩᎱᎱᎤᎩᎴᎢᏦᎢᎠᏂᏧᏣᏨᎦᏥᎪᎥᏌᏊᎤᎶᏒᎢᎢᏡᎬᎢ ᎹᎦᎺᎵᏥᎻᎼᏏᎽᏗᏩᏂᎦᏘᎾᎿᎠᏁᎬᎢᏅᎩᎾᏂᎡᎢᏌᎶᎵᏎᎷᎠᏑᏍᏗᏪᎩ ᎠᎴ ᏬᏗᏲᏭᎾᏓᏍᏓᏴᏁᎢᎤᎦᏅᏮᏰᎵᏳᏂᎨᎢ. Croatian Gojazni đačić s biciklom drži hmelj i finu vatu u džepu nošnje. (Used by Microsoft Office as sample text for Croatian language.) The overweight little schoolboy with a bike is holding hops and fine cotton in the pocket of his attire. Czech Nechť již hříšné saxofony ďáblů rozezvučí síň úděsnými tóny waltzu, tanga a quickstepu. (All 42 letters of the Czech alphabet, 72 letters in total) Let the sinful saxophones of devils finally make the hall resonate with the frightful tones of waltz, tango and quickstep. Příliš žluťoučký kůň úpěl ďábelské ódy. (All the non-ASCII letters of the Czech alphabet – popular sentence for character sets testing) Unduly yellowish horse was groaning devilish odes. Hleď, toť přízračný kůň v mátožné póze šíleně úpí. Behold, tis the eerie horse in tottering affectation groaning like crazy. Zvlášť zákeřný učeň s ďolíčky běží podél zóny úlů. Particularly insidious apprentice with dimples is running along the zone of hives. Loď čeří kýlem tůň obzvlášť v Grónské úžině. A vessel ripples a pool by its keel, especially in the strait of Greenland. Ó, náhlý déšť již zvířil prach a čilá laň teď běží s houfcem gazel k úkrytům. Oh, sudden rain has already whirled the dust and a spry doe now gallops with a flock of gazelles for the shelter. Danish (Each letter exactly once) Høj bly gom vandt fræk sexquiz på wc Tall shy groom won dirty sex quiz on W.C. Quizdeltagerne spiste jordbær med fløde, mens cirkusklovnen Walther spillede på xylofon. The quiz contestants ate strawberry with cream while Walter the circus clown played the xylophone. Dzongkha ཨ་ཡིག་དཀར་མཛེས་ལས་འཁྲུངས་ཤེས་བློའི་གཏེར༎ ཕས་རྒོལ་ཝ་སྐྱེས་ཟིལ་གནོན་གདོང་ལྔ་བཞིན༎ ཆགས་ཐོགས་ཀུན་བྲལ་མཚུངས་མེད་འཇམ་དབྱངསམཐུས༎ མཧཱ་མཁས་པའི་གཙོ་བོ་ཉིད་འགྱུར་ཅིག། Esperanto Eble ĉiu kvazaŭ-deca fuŝĥoraĵo ĝojigos homtipon. Maybe every quasi-fitting bungle-choir makes a human type happy. Laŭ Ludoviko Zamenhof bongustas freŝa ĉeĥa manĝaĵo kun spicoj. According to Ludwig Zamenhof, fresh Czech food with spices tastes good. Estonian Põdur Zagrebi tšellomängija-följetonist Ciqo külmetas kehvas garaažis Ill-healthy cellist-feuilletonist Ciqo from Zagreb was being cold in a poor garage. (used in KDE font selection). See väike mölder jõuab rongile hüpata This small miller is able to jump to train (used in localized version of Microsoft Word in Office XP, contains all non-foreign letters) Jubedalt möirgav lõukoer hüppas tänaval Terribly roaring lion jumped on street Finnish (A perfect pangram which does not include characters only found in foreign or loanwords (b, c, f, q, w, x, z, å)): Törkylempijävongahdus Muckysnogger booty-call. (Without the foreign characters c, q, x, z, w, å) Albert osti fagotin ja töräytti puhkuvan melodian. Albert bought a bassoon and blasted a puffing melody. (used in older versions of Word Perfect). (Without the foreign characters b, c, f, q, w, x, z, å) Lorun sangen pieneksi hyödyksi jäivät suomen kirjaimet. The quite small benefit of the rhyme was the letters of Finnish. Hyvän lorun sangen pieneksi hyödyksi jäi suomen kirjaimet. Modification of the previous one where the first letter is repeated (in the case the capital first letter is used but all the small letters are needed): The quite small benefit of the good rhyme was the letters of Finnish. (All characters, including foreign ones): Fahrenheit ja Celsius yrjösivät Åsan backgammon-peliin, Volkswagenissa, daiquirin ja ZX81:n yhteisvaikutuksesta. Fahrenheit and Celsius threw up on Åsa’s Backgammon board, in a Volkswagen, due to the coeffect of daiquiri and a ZX81. (All characters, including foreign ones): Charles Darwin jammaili Åken hevixylofonilla Qatarin yöpub Zeligissä. Charles Darwin was jamming on Åke’s heavy metal xylophone in the Qatar night pub Zelig. (All characters, including foreign ones): Wieniläinen sioux’ta puhuva ökyzombie diggaa Åsan roquefort-tacoja. The Sioux-speaking filthy rich zombie from Vienna digs Åsa’s Roquefort tacos. French Buvez de ce whisky que le patron juge fameux. (36) Drink some of this whisky which the boss finds excellent. Portez ce vieux whisky au juge blond qui fume Take this old whisky to the blond smoking judge Portez ce vieux whisky au juge blond qui a fumé. (variant with “é”) Take this old whisky to the blond judge who has smoked. Bâchez la queue du wagon-taxi avec les pyjamas du fakir Tarpaulin up the taxi-railcar tail with the fakir’s pajamas Voyez le brick géant que j’examine près du wharf See the giant brig which I examine near the wharf Voix ambiguë d’un cœur qui au zéphyr préfère les jattes de kiwi Ambiguous voice of a heart which prefers kiwi bowls to a zephyr Monsieur Jack, vous dactylographiez bien mieux que votre ami Wolf Mister Jack, you typed much better than your friend Wolf [was used in the Swiss army to check the keyboard of typewriters before teletransmission] West Frisian Alve bazige froulju wachtsje op dyn komst Eleven bossy women await your arrival German (no umlauts or ß): Sylvia wagt quick den Jux bei Pforzheim Sylvia dares quickly the joke near Pforzheim (no umlauts or ß): Franz jagt im komplett verwahrlosten Taxi quer durch Bayern Franz chases in the completely shabby cab straight through Bavaria (with umlauts and ß): Victor jagt zwölf Boxkämpfer quer über den großen Sylter Deich Victor chases twelve boxers across the great dam of Sylt (with umlauts and ß, each letter exactly once, according to the pre-1996 spelling rules): “Fix, Schwyz!” quäkt Jürgen blöd vom Paß “Quick, Schwyz!” Jürgen squawks zanily from the pass “Falsches Üben von Xylophonmusik quält jeden größeren Zwerg” (used by KDE) Wrong practising of xylophone music bothers every larger dwarf Greek Ταχίστη αλώπηξ βαφής ψημένη γη, δρασκελίζει υπέρ νωθρού κυνός Takhístè alôpèx vaphês psèménè gè, draskelízei ypér nòthroý kynós The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog (where brown is assigned by “colour of roasted earth”) Ξεσκεπάζω τὴν ψυχοφθόρα βδελυγμία. Xeskepazó tin psychofthóra vdelygmía. I uncover the soul-destroying abhorrence. Ζαφείρι δέξου πάγκαλο, βαθῶν ψυχῆς τὸ σῆμα. Receive an excellent sapphire, denoting profundity of soul. διαφυλάξτε γενικά τη ζωή σας από βαθειά ψυχικά τραύματα protect in general your life from deep psychological wounds Notable pangrams found occurring in ancient Greek literature include: Homeric Hymn to Hermes 22-24 Pindar, Olympian 6 21-24 Aeschylus, Agamemnon 439-444 Euripides, Alcestis 169-172, Hercules 927-930, Bacchae 719b-723a Isaeus, De Hagnia, section 31 (ἐλέλυθεν…λήψεσθαι) Lycurgus, Against Leocrates 100.3-6 Lysias 12.93.3-5 Thucydides, from the last four words of 4.115.2 through the first ten words of 4.115.3 Hebrew דג סקרן שט בים מאוכזב ולפתע מצא חברה dg sqrn šṭ bjM mʾwkzb wlptʿ mṣʾ ḥbrh (A curious fish sailed the sea disappointedly, and suddenly found company) כך התרסק נפץ על גוזל קטן, שדחף את צבי למים kk htrsq npṣ ʿl gwzl qṭn, šdḥp ʾt ṣbj lmjm An explosive crashed into a small chick, which pushed my deer into the water. (Includes all medial and final forms, here indicated by bold letters.) שפן אכל קצת גזר בטעם חסה, ודי. špn ʾkl qṣt gzr bṭʿm ḥsh, wdj (A hyrax ate some lettuce flavored carrot and that’s it) Each letter occurs exactly once. עטלף אבק נס דרך מזגן שהתפוצץ כי חם (A “dust bat” escaped through the air conditioner, which exploded due to the heat) All 22 in the Hebrew alphabet with all medial and final forms או הנסה אלהים, לבוא לקחת לו גוי מקרב גוי, במסת באתת ובמופתים ובמלחמה וביד חזקה ובזרוע נטויה, ובמוראים גדלים: ככל אשר-עשה לכם יהוה אלהיכם, במצרים—לעיניך (Deuteronomy 4:34) לכן חכו לי נאם יהוה ליום קומי לעד, כי משפטי לאסף גוים לקבצי ממלכות, לשפך עליהם זעמי כל חרון אפי, כי באש קנאתי תאכל כל הארץ (Zephaniah 3:8 – the only verse in the Hebrew Bible that contains all medial forms of the letters plus all final forms) Hindi ऋषियों को सताने वाले दुष्ट राक्षसों के राजा रावण का सर्वनाश करने वाले विष्णुवतार भगवान श्रीराम, अयोध्या के महाराज दशरथ के बड़े सपुत्र थे। Hungarian Jó foxim és don Quijote húszwattos lámpánál ülve egy pár bűvös cipőt készít. My good foxterrier and don Quixote are making a pair of magic shoes by a 20-watt lamp. Árvíztűrő tükörfúrógép A flood-resistant mirror drill Icelandic Kæmi ný öxi hér, ykist þjófum nú bæði víl og ádrepa. If a new axe were here, thieves would feel increasing deterrence and punishment. (each letter exactly once): Svo hölt, yxna kýr þegði jú um dóp í fé á bæ. A cow in heat with such a limp would admittedly keep silent about drugs in sheep on a farm. (each letter exactly once, with z (obsolete spelling)): Þú dazt á hnéð í vök og yfir blóm sexý pæju. You fell on the knee in a hole in the ice and over a sexy girl’s flower. Igbo Nne, nna, wepụ he’l’ụjọ dum n’ime ọzụzụ ụmụ, vufesi obi nye Chukwu, ṅụrịanụ, gbakọọnụ kpaa, kwee ya ka o guzoshie ike; ọ ghaghị ito, nwapụta ezi agwa. (all 36 letters and diacritics). Indonesian Muharjo seorang xenofobia universal yang takut pada warga jazirah, contohnya Qatar. Muharjo is a universal xenophobic who fears the peninsula residents, such as Qatar. Saya lihat foto Hamengkubuwono XV bersama enam zebra purba cantik yang jatuh dari Alquranmu. I saw a photo of Hamengkubuwono XV along with six beautiful ancient zebra which fell from your Koran. Hafiz mengendarai bajaj payah-payah ke warnet-x untuk mencetak lembar verifikasi dalam kertas quarto. Irish D’fhuascail Íosa Úrmhac na hÓighe Beannaithe pór Éava agus Ádhaimh D’ḟuascail Íosa Úrṁac na hÓiġe Beannaiṫe pór Éaḃa agus Áḋaiṁ Jesus, Son of the blessed Virgin, redeemed the seed of Eve and Adam. Ċuaiġ bé ṁórṡáċ le dlúṫspád fíorḟinn trí hata mo ḋea-ṗorcáin ḃig A greatly satisfied woman went with a truly white dense spade through the hat of my good little well-fattened pig (uses both regular and lenited (with dot above) letters) Italian Pangrams in Italian normally omit the foreign letters j, k, w, x, and y. Quel fez sghembo copre davanti That slanted fez covers the front. Ma la volpe, col suo balzo, ha raggiunto il quieto Fido. But the fox with her leap has reached the still Fido. [”Fido” is a name commonly given to dogs.] Quel vituperabile xenofobo zelante assaggia il whisky ed esclama: alleluja! That blameworthy, zealous xenophobe tastes his whisky and exclaims: Alleluja! Pranzo d’acqua fa volti sghembi. Lunch of water makes lopsided faces. O templi, quarzi, vigne, fidi boschi! O temples, quartzes, vines, faithful woods! Che tempi brevi, zio, quando solfeggi. Such short times, uncle, when you sol-fa. Qualche notizia pavese mi fa sbadigliare. Some news from Pavia makes me yawn. In quel campo si trovan funghi in abbondanza. In that field, mushrooms are to be found in abundance. Qualche vago ione tipo zolfo, bromo, sodio. Some vague ions, like sulfur, bromine, sodium. Berlusconi? Quiz, tv, paghe da fame. (Umberto Eco)[4] Tv? Quiz, Br, Flm, Dc… Oh, spenga! (Umberto Eco, 1979, without foreign letters) Japanese Since there are tens of thousands of kanji characters, Japanese pangrams are ones containing all kana. Iroha Uta いろはにほへと ちりぬるを わかよたれそ つねならむ うゐのおくやま けふこえて あさきゆめみし ゑひもせす(ん) irohanihoheto chirinuruwo wakayotareso tsunenaramu uwinookuyama kefukoete asakiyumemishi yehimosesu(n) 色は匂へど 散りぬるを 我が世誰ぞ 常ならむ 有為の奥山 今日越えて 浅き夢見じ 酔ひもせず(ん) * The poem Iroha uses all 47 classical kana characters exactly once, and it comes in the form of a poem. (The characters ゐ and ゑ are obsolete in modern Japanese.) Iroha is so classically entrenched that any modern construction of a Japanese pangram in classical form is called iroha-uta. Tori Naku Uta とりなくこゑす ゆめさませ みよあけわたる ひんかしを そらいろはえて おきつへに ほふねむれゐぬ もやのうち torinakukowesu yumesamase miyoakewataru hinkashiwo sorairohaete okitsuheni hofunemurewinu moyanōchi. 鳥啼く声す 夢覚ませ 見よ明け渡る 東を 空色栄えて 沖つ辺に 帆船群れゐぬ 靄の中 * Awaken from dreaming to the voice of the crying bird and see the coming daylight turning the east sky-blue; shrouded in mist is a flock of ships on the open sea Ametsuchi No Uta あめ つち ほし そら / やま かは みね たに / くも きり むろ こけ / ひと いぬ うへ すゑ / ゆわ さる おふ せよ / えのえを なれ ゐて 天 地 星 空 / 山 川 峰 谷 / 雲 霧 室 苔 / 人 犬 上 末 / 硫黄 猿 生ふ 為よ / 榎の 枝を 馴れ 居て Taini no Uta たゐにいて なつむわれをそ きみめすと あさりおひゆく やましろの うちゑへるこら もはほせよ えふねかけぬ 田居に出で 菜摘むわれをぞ 君召すと 求食り追ひゆく 山城の 打酔へる子ら 藻葉干せよ え舟繋けぬ There (were) two messengers; (they) had animosity (among each other); (they were) equally powerful (in fight); here are the corpses. This poem is used as the ordering of the Javanese script. This poem is a perfect pangram, which means there is only one instance of each letter. Klingon qajunpaQHeylIjmo’ batlh DuSuvqang charghwI’ ‘It. Because of your apparent audacity the depressed conqueror is willing to fight you. Korean 키스의 고유조건은 입술끼리 만나야 하고 특별한 기술은 필요치 않다. Kiseu-ui goyujogeoneun ipsulkkiri mannaya hago teukbyeolhan gisureun pilyochi antha. The essential condition for a kiss is that lips meet and there is no special technique required. In current usage, Hangul has 14 simple consonant letters, 6 simple vowel letters, and 4 iotized vowel letters; there are also 5 double consonant letters, 11 consonant clusters, and 11 diphthongs, made from combinations of the simple consonants or simple vowels. Of these, the above phrase contains all the simple consonant letters, simple vowel letters, and iotized vowel letters, along with 1 double consonant letter (ㄲ “gg”), 1 consonant cluster (ㄶ “nh”), and one diphthong (ㅢ “ui”). Latin Sic fugiens, dux, zelotypos, quam Karus haberis.[5] Thus fleeing, O leader, you are regarded with jealousy like Karus. Includes the letters k, y and z, used for words derived from Greek, but not the letters j, v or w, consonants that evolved from the vowels i and u. Latvian Muļķa hipiji mēģina brīvi nogaršot celofāna žņaudzējčūsku. Silly hippies try to freely taste the cellophane python. Glāžšķūņa rūķīši dzērumā čiepj Baha koncertflīģeļu vākus. Glass shack gnomes steal Bach piano covers while inebriated. Četri psihi faķīri vēlu vakarā zāģēja guļbūvei durvis, fonā šņācot mežam. Late at night, four psycho conjurors were sawing the doors of a log cabin as the wind hummed in the background. Lithuanian Įlinkdama fechtuotojo špaga sublykčiojusi pragręžė apvalų arbūzą Incurving fencer sword sparkled and perforated a round watermelon Lojban .o’i mu xagji sofybakni cu zvati le purdi Watch out, five hungry Soviet-cows are in the garden! Macedonian Ѕидарски пејзаж: шугав билмез со чудење џвака ќофте и кељ на туѓ цех. A mason’s landscape: a mangy fool wonderingly munches on meatball and kale at someone else’s expense. Бучниов жолт џин ѕида куќа со фурна меѓу полиња за цреши, хмељ и грозје. [This] noisy yellow giant is building a house with an oven in the midst of fields of cherries, hops and grapes. Долг Џош, сторив женење, црн ѕид! Фрчат хмељ, ќумбе, ѓупки, зајак. Long Josh, I’ve done a reaping, a black wall! Hops, Gypsy women, rabbit are whizzing. Мојот дружељубив коњ со тих галоп фаќа брз џиновски глушец по туѓо ѕитче. My friendly horse with a quiet gallop catches a quick giant mouse over someone else’s little wall. Malayalam അജവും ആനയും ഐരാവതവും ഗരുഡനും കഠോര സ്വരം പൊഴിക്കെ ഹാരവും ഒഢ്യാണവും ഫാലത്തില് മഞ്ഞളും ഈറന് കേശത്തില് ഔഷധ എണ്ണയുമായി ഋതുമതിയും അനഘയും ഭൂനാഥയുമായ ഉമ ദുഃഖഛവിയോടെ ഇടതു പാദം ഏന്തി ങ്യേയാദൃശം നിര്ഝരിയിലെ ചിറ്റലകളെ ഓമനിക്കുമ്പോള് ബാലയുടെ കണ്കളില് നീര് ഊര്ന്നു വിങ്ങി. Mapudungun The Ragileo alphabet doesn’t distinguish some sounds which are mostly used to convey affectionate speech variations, such as s/sh. (Ragileo alphabet) Gvxam mincetu apocikvyeh: ñizol ce mamvj ka raq kuse bafkeh mew (Unified alphabet) Ngütram minchetu apochiküyeṉ: ñidol che mamüll ka rag kushe ḻafkeṉ mew. (Azümchefe) Gütxam minchetu apochiküyenh: ñizol che mamüll ka raq kushe lhafkenh mew. Tale under the full moon: the chief chemamull and the clay old woman at the lake/sea. Mongolian Щётканы фермд пийшин цувъя. Бөгж зогсч хэльюү. Let’s echelon fireplaces in brush farm. Ring says standing. Myanmar The genius from Sri Lanka read the formula of elixir of life thoroughly in the almond tree next to Zalun market. Norwegian Since Norwegian orthography does not include c, q, w, x or z, except in foreign borrowings that haven’t been naturalised, the possible pangrams including all the 29 letters of the Norwegian alphabet will require using two or more words with a distinctly foreign spelling. Vår sære Zulu fra badeøya spilte jo whist og quickstep i min taxi. Our strange Zulu from the bathing island actually played whist and quickstep in my taxi. Høvdingens kjære squaw får litt pizza i Mexico by. The chief’s dear squaw gets a little pizza in Mexico City. IQ-løs WC-boms uten hørsel skjærer god pizza på xylofon. IQ-less WC-bum without hearing cuts good pizza on xylophone. Sær golfer med kølle vant sexquiz på wc i hjemby. Strange golfer with club won sex quiz on W.C. in hometown. Jeg begynte å fortære en sandwich mens jeg kjørte taxi på vei til quiz I started to devour a sandwich while I was riding a taxi on the way to the quiz Polish Perfect pangrams (each letter exactly once): Jeżu klątw, spłódź Finom część gry hańb! (by Stanisław Barańczak) O hedgehog of curses, generate for the Finns a part of the game of ignominies! Pójdźże, kiń tę chmurność w głąb flaszy! Go, cast this melancholy into the depth of a bottle! Mężny bądź, chroń pułk twój i sześć flag. Be brave, protect your regiment and six flags. Filmuj rzeź żądań, pość, gnęb chłystków! Film the slaughter of demands, abstain from food, oppress the greenhorns! Pchnąć w tę łódź jeża lub ośm skrzyń fig. To push a hedgehog or eight crates of figs into this boat. (ośm – the original form of the numeral osiem) Dość gróźb fuzją, klnę, pych i małżeństw! “Enough of these threats with the shotgun,” swear I, “haughtinesses and marriages!” Pójdź w loch zbić małżeńską gęś futryn! Go to the dungeon to batter the marital goose of doorframes! Chwyć małżonkę, strój bądź pleśń z fugi. Seize your wife, the garment, or the mold from the grout. Imperfect pangram: Koń i żółw grali w kości z piękną ćmą u źródła. A horse and a tortoise played dice with a beautiful moth near the spring. Portuguese without diacritics Um pequeno jabuti xereta viu dez cegonhas felizes. (BP) A curious little tortoise saw ten happy storks. Blitz prende ex-vesgo com cheque fajuto. (BP) Cop arrests ex-cross-eye with fake check in a checkpoint. Gazeta publica hoje no jornal uma breve nota de faxina na quermesse. (BP) The journalists publish today at the newspaper a short note about the cleaning at the kirmiss. Zebras caolhas de Java querem passar fax para moças gigantes de New York. (BP) One-eyed zebras from Java want to fax for giant ladies from New York. with diacritics Luís argüia à Júlia que «brações, fé, chá, óxido, pôr, zângão» eram palavras do português. Luís argued to Júlia that “big arms, faith, tea, oxide, to put, bee” were Portuguese words. À noite, vovô Kowalsky vê o ímã cair no pé do pingüim queixoso e vovó põe açúcar no chá de tâmaras do jabuti feliz. (BP) At night, grandpa Kowalsky sees the magnet falling on the complaining penguin’s foot and grandma puts sugar in the happy tortoise’s date tea. Romanian Muzicologă în bej vând whisky și tequila, preț fix. (Female) musicologist in beige, sells whisky and tequila, fixed price. Bând whisky, jazologul șprițuit vomă fix în tequila. Drinking whisky, the drunken jazzman threw up right in the tequila. Ex-sportivul își fumează jucăuș țigara bând whisky cu tequila. The ex-sportsman playfully smokes his cigarette, drinking whisky with tequila. Înjurând pițigăiat, zoofobul comandă vexat whisky și tequila. Swearing in high pitch, the zoophobic man vexedly ordered whisky and tequila. Russian (traditional telegraph test; lacks ъ and ё) В чащах юга жил бы цитрус? Да, но фальшивый экземпляр! Would a citrus live in the thickets of the south? Yes, but only a fake one! (using quasiobsolete spelling for last word to include ъ) В чащах юга жил бы цитрус? Да, но фальшивый экземпляръ! same (each letter exactly once) Эх, чужак, общий съём цен шляп (юфть) – вдрызг! Hey, stranger, the general takings from prices of hats (made from a thick leather) have completely crashed! (each letter exactly once) — Любя, съешь щипцы, — вздохнёт мэр, — Кайф жгуч! The mayor will sigh, “Eat the pliers with love; pleasure burns!” (Microsoft used it in fontview.exe for Cyrillic fonts without «же») Съешь же ещё этих мягких французских булок, да выпей чаю. S’eš’ že eŝë ètih mjagkih francuzskih bulok, da vypej čaju. So eat more of these soft French loaves, and have some tea! (used in KDE) Широкая электрификация южных губерний даст мощный толчок подъёму сельского хозяйства. Widespread electrification of southern guberniyas will give a powerful incentive to the rise of agriculture. Разъяренный чтец эгоистично бьёт пятью жердями шустрого фехтовальщика. An enraged narrator selfishly beats a nimble fencer with five poles. (lacks ъ and ё) Наш банк вчера же выплатил Ф.Я. Эйхгольду комиссию за ценные вещи. As of yesterday, our bank already remitted to F.J. Eichhold a commission payment for the valuables. Sanskrit कः खगौघाङचिच्छौजा झाञ्ज्ञोऽटौठीडडण्ढणः। तथोदधीन् पफर्बाभीर्मयोऽरिल्वाशिषां सहः।। [6] Scottish Gaelic Mus d’fhàg Cèit-Ùna ròp Ì le ob. Before Kate-Una left the Iona cattle auction with hops. Serbian (some also apply to Croatian and Bosnian) Gojazni đačić s biciklom drži hmelj i finu vatu u džepu nošnje. The overweight little schoolboy with a bike is holding hops and fine cotton in the pocket of his attire. Fin džip, gluh jež i čvrst konjić dođoše bez moljca. A nice jeep, a deaf hedgehog and a tough horse came without a moth. Љубазни фењерџија чађавог лица хоће да ми покаже штос. Ljubazni fenjerdžija čađavog lica hoće da mi pokaže štos. A kind lamplighter with grimy face wants to show me a stunt. Ајшо, лепото и чежњо, за љубав срца мога дођи у Хаџиће на кафу. Ajšo, lepoto i čežnjo, za ljubav srca moga dođi u Hadžiće na kafu. Aicha, (you that are my) beauty and longing, for the love of my heart, come to (the town of) Hadžići for a cup of coffee. Slovak Kŕdeľ ďatľov učí koňa žrať kôru. (contains only all accented letters except š) A flock of woodpeckers teach a horse to feed on bark. Kŕdeľ šťastných ďatľov učí pri ústí Váhu mĺkveho koňa obhrýzať kôru a žrať čerstvé mäso. A flock of happy woodpeckers by the mouth of the river Vah is teaching a silent horse to nibble on bark and feed on fresh meat (This is a modified sentence that not only contains modified letters with diacritics but also those without) Even in the expansion, c is missing, only occurring as part of the digraph ch, which is a s
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2015.09.03 17:48 Argentina_es_blanca Getting involved in Europe's illegal immigrant crisis would be a mistake. Here are some news stories about those "refugees"

Migrants use their food vouchers to pay for prostitutes
Calais migrants reject 'bland' food handout
Refugees protest against 'monotonous' Italian food, with a Picture
Italy, "refugees" throw away clothing given by charity
Migrants to Italy riot in the streets
Senegalese Migrants riot in Spain
Calais: Illegal Migrants complain and throw away food given by French charity workers
In 2012 only 33% of Somalis in Sweden are employed. There are 18,000 unemployed Somalis. Over the course of their lives, it will cost Sweden 250 billion kronor to take care of them
Abandoned army barracks used to house 2200 refugees. Local playground shut down because the immigrants are harassing women and children and are using the playground as a toilet
7 y.o. girl raped by African refugee (German)
Middle Eastern Christian Refugees in Europe Are Bullied, Threatened by Muslim Refugees
Leftist tries to donate to "refugees" but his bag gets stolen.
Refugees throwing away food
Denmark: Syrian refugees harassing underage girls: “They follow after us, when we go home. It’s really scary.”
Denmark: 72 % of refugees claiming to be children were shown to be adults
"Refugees arriving in Austria don’t want to stay and would prefer to go on to Germany"
A family picture of Abdulsalam O. (3rd from the right), who arrived alone as a 14yo refugee to Norway and now brought his small family of 12 to Europe.
Latest survey in Czechia: 93% of Czechs would send all refugees back where they come from. 78% want to reinstate border surveillance.
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2015.07.31 19:49 SlyRatchet Immigration Megathread - Part IV

Previous Megathreads
Immigration Megathread - Part I
Immigration Megathread - Part II
Immigration Megathread Part III
PSA: Please keep the discussion on topic.
General Information
Types of migrants
  • Economic migrant: "An economic migrant is someone who emigrates from one region to another because living conditions or job opportunities are not good in their own country and to seek an improvement their standard of living elsewhere" **
  • Refugee: A refugee is a person who is outside their home country because they have suffered (or feared) persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, or political opinion; because they are a member of a persecuted social category of persons; or because they are fleeing a war. Such a person may be called an "asylum seeker" until recognized by the state where they make a claim. *
European Co-Operation on Migration
  • Freedom of labour: is an a the principle whereby all citizens of the EU or EEA have the freedom to live and work in any other EU or EEA country as if they were a national of that country.
  • EU and EEA: European Union comprises 28 member states who collectively agree on the shape and form of European integration. European Economic Area comprises three countries (Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein) who are not full EU members but participate in much of the work the EU does, especially relating to free movement of labour, capital, goods and services within the EU/EEA.
  • Schengen: is an agreement between 26 of the 31 EU/EEA countries + Switzerland where there are no passport checks. This means that if extra-European migrants (especially tourists) want to abstain a visa for a specific country within the Schengen zone, then that visa will apply for the entire Schengen zone, not just the specific country they applied for.
Key Statistics
Headline and link Time Comment
Top Stories
Bernard Cazeneuve and Theresa May address Calais crisis 31/7 discuss here
West Europeans want end to open borders - Daily Telegraph discuss here
Anti-Semitic incidents in UK see sharp rise, figures suggest - BBC 31/7 discuss here
First cousin marriages in Pakistani communities leading to 'appalling' disabilities among children 6 AM CET 29/7 discuss here
Two-thirds of failed asylum seekers had used false identities - Irish Times 3 PM CET 28/7 discuss here
Erdogan: Europe responsible for refugees 'drowining in the sea' 31/7 discuss here
Testing the Limits: How Many Refugees Can Germany Handle? - Der Spiegel 31/7 discuss here and here
10 numbers to illustrate how serious problem is the immigration according to the Hungarian Government - HU 3PM CET 29/7 discuss here
Tweet by Geert Walders 6 AM CET 29/7 discuss here
The Israeli emigre who opened Sweden's eyes to anti-Semitism 6 AM CET 29/7 discuss here
Ukip's rise in the east of England: a world turned upside down – video 1 PM CET 29/7 discuss here
Israel’s Fertility Policy Bears Fruit - Taki's Magazine 9 PM CET 27/7 discuss here
Finnish MP calls for fight against "nightmare of multiculturalism", no comment from party leadership Yesterday N/A
Reportage, Photos and Video
Some 60 refugees attempted to flee Bělá camp 31/7 discuss here
Austria admits flaws in handling refugees, pledges action 31/7 discuss here
'Migrant stowaways' leave lorry after arriving in UK – CCTV video 31/7 discuss here
David Cameron: 'Totally focused' on Calais migrant crisis 31/7 discuss here
UKIP's Nigel Farage: Migrant numbers creating 'security crisis' 31/7 discuss here
Calais crisis: Cameron pledges to deport more people to end 'swarm' of migrants 30/7 discuss here
Gang of Muslim Women Beat Woman for Wearing Bikini – Now She’s Fighting Back 30/7 discuss here
CALAIS une distribution de nourriture tourne mal plusieurs bléssés - YouTube 30/7 discuss here
Islamister vill starta asylboende i Sverige 6 AM CET 29/7 discuss here
Aylesbury child sexual abuse: Six guilty of grooming teen raped by 60 men before she was 16 6 AM CET 29/7 discuss here
Denmark bans kosher and halal slaughter as minister says ‘animal rights come before religion’ 6 AM CET 29/7 discuss here
Germany: Pro-refugee politician 'escapes bomb attack' 6 AM CET 29/7 discuss here
Terror ALERT: Three-year-old child is targeted as ISIS eyes hundreds of British children 6 AM CET 29/7 discuss here
Man Arrested for Allegedly Passing on HIV 1 AM CET 29/7 discuss here
Grandfather wanted to 'violate virgin from his bloodline' to cure HIV 9PM CET 28/7 discuss here
Somalia suicide bomber was German: reports 11 PM CET 28/7 N/A
German police call for ban on rallies near refugee centers 11 PM CET 28/7 N/A
Channel Tunnel: '2,000 migrants' tried to enter 7 PM CET 28/7 Discuss here
Ominous rise in racism against refugees, Germany's top filmmaker says 4PM CET 28/7 discuss here
Rome mafia's 'main racket' was migrants at 3 PM CET 28th/7 discuss here
BNP - Is this our capital city? - YouTube submitted 3 PM CET 28/7 discuss here
State spends €700m on asylum system over past five years - The Irish Times 3 PM CET 28/7 discuss here
Some youtube videos by SRSLikesMe 1 PM 28/7 CET discuss here
Denmark to run anti-refugee advertisements - The Local (Denmark) 9 PM CET 27/7 discuss here
Bavarian school warns girls should dress ‘modestly,’ due to Syrian refugees nearby - Russia Today 9 PM CET 27/7 discuss here
Immigrant hit in France - Liveleak 10 PM GMT 27/7 discuss here
Sie wollten eine 19-Jährige vergewaltigen: Drei Asylbewerber in Bayern festgenommen 1PM CET 27/7 discuss here
Migrant Found Dead on Channel Tunnel Train Roof Yesterday N/A
Romanian police, partners identify nearly 200 wanted individuals in Schengen Information System Yesterday N/A
Afghan man killed, two wounded as migrants clash near border Yesterday N/A
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2014.12.23 15:14 Meckel Me [21 M] with my ___ [21 F] not sure where it goes

sry for my inferior english, german here, sry became more text than i expected.
Hey guys, Im not quite sure about one special girl. Some information: Im a relative guy, some gamer, some fitness since some months and well just hanging out with friends and stuff. I actually didnt had a real relationship since i was 16 (very horrible relationship, gf turned into devil, tried to destroy me, tried to fk every guy I even know, tried to hurt herself and blame me, girl went with me to school from my 10th till 18th life age.) Until today I somehow suffer under her pressure, she is still trying to plot against me, maybe I have some relationship barrier because of her.
So there is this girl, she also went with me to school, she currently is at an university in southgermany. I know this girl had for a long time a crush on me during school time (sadly didnt knew back then). She is one of the most attractive people I know, she is zealous for going to gym and stuff. Even though I became a little fat after my last break up, she always spend some time with me, tried to sport with me around and stuff.
Welp last week she came visit me in my college town, so we can travel home together ( I just live 1 1/2 hours from our homecity away). Welp and I felt amazing, the several hours we spend talking with each other , was the best time I had in a long time. In my friend circle Im always the chaotic one dude , always trying to be funny and acting some weird. But with her I felt for once in 10 years like the calm self I was used to be.
So well she actually tried to come closer and hinted she like my appearence, and that she is single again ( she was in a 4months relationship last year with some gym dude)
Welp here is the problem we met once 2 days ago and well had a little time searching for xmas presents for our families etc. Today we wanted to meet and spend the night running around the Xmas festival in our city. Welp in the morning she send me a message, that she is ill, and rather want to hope to become better today. Not a big deal, usually. But I got somehow the feeling she is ditching me on purpose.
In this case , I have to mention we somehow had our issues meeting up in the past years. There was several times the moment she said, hey Im ill ,sry not today. Welp some bitter about those cases, I also twice said that I just dont have time today when she asked for me to spend time with her.
The worst is she is also behavior weird, there were once the thing that I asked her to come with me to the marriage of my brother, she several times said yes and she will love to with me. Welp she even allready came 1 week before to our hometown ( she just come actually all 3 months up here).Well the day before the marriage she said, that she allready said she couldnt go with me, her boyfriend doesnt like that we hang out together. (at this point I was mad somehow mad because the thing she allready said she might dont come, was referencing her answer the first time I asked her a half year ago, when she said she didnt know whether she have exams there or not.)
The second time she ditched me, when I made a call to attend our class meeting ( I make once or twice a party for all my former classmates to meet up) Here again she basicly said that she really love to come, and said she will love to come, even though her direct female friends arent coming ( we are 60 people, hard to get all on 1 day) Well on the day she yet again , say she told she wont come , because her friends dont come. At this day I broke contact until last week, because I wasnt sure if she is somehow shizophren giving no reliable answers at all, or she is just playing with me.
So whats next? Class meeting is at 27. she isnt quite sure yet whether her family let her go on that evening, but she try, and allready called and said she really want to see me a bnother time before she drives at 4th january home.
I want to give her a little present: a foto of us 2, at the prom night together, she had to go very early because she need to get the plane with the family for her vacation, and didnt even remember that we made a foto together, but really hinted that she would really like to see it.
Hard to describe whether she likes me or not, my friends say yes! Im quite not sure, whether this is just some kind of game, because well she is unreliable as fk. And even though i feel something for her, and she for me. Is a relationship worth? I mean she is living down there and im up here. I dont really have money to get there maybe every second month or so.
Hope someone have some advice for me, or atleast have some expierience close to this.
tl;dr: Dont know if i love this girl somehow or not, dont even know if she is just playing with me, or if there even is anything
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2012.08.18 08:09 tabledresser [Table] IAmA Lieutenant in the Swiss Army. AMA

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What is your specialty? I am a language specialist, and get to accompany diplomats and officers abroad / or when someone of the sort visits Switzerland.
Have you ever been deployed? If so, may I inquire as to the circumstances? No, I haven't. Right now the Swiss Army is only active on a peacekeeping mission in the Kosovo (KFOR). You just have to apply that you want to go on a tour and get special training for it before you go down to Kosovo for approx 5 months. Now they are especially looking for Liasion Monitoring people that would provide the Leading officers military intelligence on how the civilian population is doing.
What is your opinion on American troops, if you have served with any? I have heard from other people who have served with them that they are mostly very nice and outgoing guys.
Do the Swiss use army within the country for patrol, or are you governed by a local version of the posse comitatus act (like the US)? Yes, the Infantry patrols the embassys in Switzerland and helps out at major events, especially peace conforences in Geneva or the WEF in Davos. A lot of people joke that the army solely exists to protect the WEF.^
Are you career, or do you have a goal once you finish your term of service? No, I did mandatory service and to become a language specialist, I had to become an officer. I will go study biology in the fall. I just have to go back every year for 3 Weeks in order to do a repetion course and go shooting every year too.
One blade, one saw, a can opener, a bottle opener, a screwdriver, a blade for making little holes but no toothpick. Everyone hates the fact that we don't have toothpicks.
Here is the French tatou (3 versions). At least you can have a meal and some wine with it. The old one used to have a corkscrew but thank god you can open beer cans withought any devices. We eat out of these when we're out on exercises.
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What are you generally protecting yourself from? Is it the French? No, mainly the Germans. But actually being a neutral country, we'd defend against any agressor.
And we sometimes invade Liechtenstein for fun.
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"As a rule, the assault rifles (every soldier keeps his weapon at home) are used only for suicides and the occasional violent crime. In the service, they mostly function as ballast for long marches — one of the Swiss Army's most popular pastimes." We do go on really long marches. During training almost every week.
The longest one you do is 100km but that is only for officer candidates at the end of their schooling.
I postdoc-ed at the Biozentrum in Basel in the early 90s and my diploma student told me that the Swiss Army uses manual typewriters (in case of power failure) and makes extensive use of bicycles in the military. Is that still true? No we have laptops now and yes, we use bicylcles far more than I'd like to use them.
Are they standard laptops or some military issue with a handcrank or solar cell? Dell laptops. Slow as fuck.
Is it true that bridges into Switzerland contain built-in explosives that could be triggered in the event that the country is ever invaded? That used to be true, but no only some of the very old bridges are rigged. Our troops could do that job pretty quickly anyways nowadays.
To what extent do you feel that the Swiss Army's purpose is to protect the assets of Swiss bankers and their money-laundering clientele? It certainly contributes to Switzerland being a safe haven for assets because a) its neutrality and b) the fact that is has an army. But nowadays Switzerland easily gives in to diplomatic pressure and the army would be used as a last resort.
Could you beat up Roger Federer? Probably.
How did you enjoy skinning up ski slopes while tourists zip downhill right beside you? Also, why is the countryside littered with the base parts of mortars? I had a small collection for awhile. (Edit: like this: Link to Hahaha oh god I hated that. You must have been in Andermatt, that is where the mountaneering specialists are trained. I spent a week up there myself for training and it did suck seeing people having fun while you were dragging yourself up the mountain. I really enjoy civil life much more now because of such experiences. Because Switzerland is small, and when troops go on exercices the Army usually just blocks off a certain area while we are shooting up the hills. There are some permanently reserved areas for that, but when there are large troop exercises, you need more space.
chocolate rations? Yes we get swiss chocolate in the snack crates we take on the field. They immediatley vanish though into the combat gear. Really good stuff.
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Awesome! And it's Frey! Does that mean the Bundesarmee does its shopping at Migros? I guess so. Don't know anything about that.
Do you think Switzerland still needs a conscription army? It is getting out of fashion in Europe, I know and there is even an initiative coming up that would take mandatory service out of the law, but I think it's a good system and many young men look forward to doing service, just for the experience. And withought it, only boneheads and lowlifes would really go into service, and noone in the army would want that.
A friend of mine refused to serve and did six months in the Swiss pokey. When he got out, he left Switzerland and never went back. He's a very special person then.
Everyone I know just fakes some psychological problems or does civil service instead. It's sooooo much easier that way.
Do landlocked countries get to have a navy? Do you at least have some military boats to keep the sneaky Germans from coming in on rivers and lakes? Yes we have a very small navy that consists of some patrol boats equipped with 0.50 cal machine guns and some diving troops as well.
But usually we refer o the Infantry as the "Grass-Navy".
Could you give a description of Swiss basic training? During conscription, do you have a choice in joining the air force, or do you have to go army? What is you favourite experiance thus far in army. Basic training takes 7 weeks and consists of: Shooting, Military Drill (Marching in fromation, correct sayings, saluting, all the different positions, ranks etc.), First Aid, ABC-Defense (wearing gasmasks etc->the worst) and usually combining those things together. And of course physical training which includes a lot of running and lengthy marches with 40+ lbs of "baggage". This Period is the toughest because you have to get used to being in a entirely different world with different rules and being yelled at constantly. But one gets used to it quickly. The difficulty varies between the troops, for example the Grenadiers (Link to are trained almost like US Marines or even special forces whereas Medic troops are easier, meaning less physical training. To become a pilot, you have to start even earlier with the screening. This has to be some sort of dream that you have early on because the program only takes people 15-17. There you are tested on physical fitness (stability of back, eyesight) and also do some other tests (3-Dimensional vision, IQ tests etc). Once you pass these, you have to go to the army. You MUST become a platoon leader (officer) in order to advance into the pilot schooling. After all the normal military training (Takes abou 13 months become a platoon leader) you can go on to become a pilot, which means more testing awaits. It takes a couple of years before you even set your foot into a jet or a helicopter...
My favourite experience was being in the mountains for a week and get to climb some peaks. And of course all of the new friends you make and the good times you have together.
They take kids that are 15 for pilot school? Yes. But that is only basic screening.
Interesting. I read earlier that the Swiss army is essentially one division. Sorry if I misread that, but if true, then where do the grenediers fall under. Are they there own battalion, or split up amongst the battalions, similar to Canada's ex paratroopers? No there are 4 Divisions (territorrial regions), which are divided into Brigades, which are divided into Battaillons, which are again divided into Companys.
The special forces (Grenadiers, Paratroopers, AAD10) are in a unit called the KSK (Kommando Spezialkräfte), which are commanded seperately.
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How can I go about procuring a vehicle like that for myself? They'll probably go on sale in a couple of years when they are decomissioned by the army. I warn you though, these things are really slow.
Does the Swiss Army take part in any peacekeeping missions? Swiss government took revenge by starting a revolution there and killing Qadafi. (Just kidding, but the first part is true)
Of all the countries in the world, which would you say Switzerland has the worst relations with? Yes, more than I even thought there would be. Especially with our bordering countries like France & Germany. Well, we had a pretty bad stint with Libya because we arrested one of his sons for domestic violence which resulted in Libya taking two Swiss citizens as hostages, but that blew over too. Link to
Gaddafi publicly called for the dissolution of Switzerland, its territory to be divided among France, Italy and Germany. In August 2009, Hannibal Gaddafi stated that if he had nuclear weapons, he would "wipe Switzerland off the map". Yep, that's a pretty bad stint all right! Okay, so if you size up all the other European armies, which do you think would be a good match up to Switzerland in a crazy, hypothetical, non-nuclear war? We could probably take on any army in Europe, because we know the country and alps so well. We'd be like the Taliban fighting the ISAF.
You mentioned you're a language specialist - how difficult does military communication get in a multilingual country like Switzerland? Is all communication just a jumble of German/French/Italian/English, or is there a standard, official language of the military? Well basically there is only one division. The German speaking members and the French/Italian speaking members. They are either divided into seperate companys during recruit schooling or have their own platoon. Very rarely are german and french/italian speaking members in one platoon. After the schooling you are divided into bataillons that are also separated by language.
So half the army can't understand the other half. Sounds like a situation ripe for mix-ups, which is I guess where a language specialist like you comes in. "Should we shoot the missiles?" German commander on radio: "Nein!" "Very well, fire nine missiles!" Of course the German speaking learn French in school and vice versa. We have a LOT of people who are practically bilingual.
What makes a man turn neutral ... Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality? We're a country of four languages. And to ensure that the Romands don't turn to the French, the Ticinesi not to the Italians and the Swiss-Germans not to the Germans, we decided to be neutral to keep everything in one little country.
So do they give you guys a class on what all the features of the knives do, or do you have to figure it out yourself? No. Being Swiss, we are practically born with one.
Would you be in the Swiss Guard at the vatican? Nope. But Swiss Guards are required to do at least recruit school and be Roman Catholic in order to join.
Edit:So I could theoretically go because I am also Roman Catholic on paper.
Were you part of the group of Swiss Army soldiers who accidentally "invaded" Lichtenstein? It was a company of the infantry on an exercise and they probably got lost on the way.
And I wasn't in it. ^
What are the biggest pros and cons of the modern military system? Pros.
Meet new people, from all over Switzerland ,Get to shoot a gun ,Experience things that you would never do if you weren't in the army ,Learn to appreciate things like an own room, a single shower, getting to do what you want ,Learn a certain amount of discipline ,Get to know your physical & psychological limits.
Being away from home ,Having to deal with some people... ,You sometimes question why you are even enduring this, and for what purpose ,being surrounded by people 24/7 withought some peace and quiet.
Have you met or interacted with any British Troops or special forces? Nope haven't ever seen any.
Have you ever had to escort or meet someone famous? No, I just finished my training, but other specialists got to escort some heads of state and high ranking generals of other countries, which I cannot name because of security reasons.
Can I borrow some tweezers, a toothpick and a cockscrew? Sadly, none of that is issued with the standard Soldatenmesser 08.
Compared to what you know about the US military, can you tell us some things you don't agree with concerning US military strategy in today's world as opposed to your own? I think the whole idea of having a professional army is the most disturbing thing. The army can become easily detached from the other general population which I find rather unsettling.
Also withought mandatory service you have to deal with what comes into the army(regarding the US, that is), and the mix is much better regarding social status, education and jobs in the Swiss Army.
Given that Switzerland isn't likely to be invaded any time soon, and that the Swiss are quite the opposite of interventionists, how do you rationalize the maintenance of 220,000-man Army? Right now, the Army is being downsized to 100.000 active members with a budget of 5 billion Swiss Francs, which seems more reasonable to most Swiss citizens, but of course the ones in favour would still like to see a strong army, even if there are no apparent threats.
Also, to what extent is the Army responsible for protecting important international institutions headquartered in Switzerland, like CERN, WEF, WHO, and WTO? The army is responsible for guarding the embassys and also for the WEF. The other institutions are guarded by the police. But when a big event comes along like the meeting of Francophonic states (which was in Switzerland recently) or the European Soccer Championship, then the army steps in and helps the police.
I understand there are some interesting gun laws in Switzerland surrounding the military, Could you explain further on that? For instance, I heard that you get the keep the rifle after you have served in the military, or something of that nature. Do correct me if im wrong :) Yes I have my Rrifle at home, but withought ammunition. The army used to give home some ammo too but that has been abolished over the years. The point was that if a war would break out there would be a message broadcasted over the radio and all the men, who already had their full gear and fatigues including their weapons at home could get to the nearest barracks fully equipped and ready for battle. Switzerland used to have one of the biggest "standing" armys back in the day.
So yes, active mebers keep their weapon at home at get the choice to keep it after they've completed their service for a reasonable price and have to get a gun owners license. Because of this, Switzerland has the highest density of firearms in the world.
What do the Swiss(or you) think about Ueli Steck? That guy is simply amazing. He's not as popular as Roger Federer for example, but he is widely recognized in Switzerland and there's even a documentary about him that the Swiss TV (SF) made about him.
How do you feel about conscientious objectors? I don't have a problem with it at all. A lot of my friends didn't go to the army by faking psychological problems etc.
But they definetly miss out on an experience of a lifetime. And girls really dig guys in fatigues.
What's your favorite cheese? Gruyère.
I have dual citizenship and i was thinking about joining, but my dad never taught me German, and he basically ditched. Is there an English speaking division or would i have to know German when i enter? Do you enjoy it in the army? Nope there isn't. You'd have to know German in order to understand. But I did service with two Australians who had learned a bit of German in the months before (both with dual citizenship). So it is possible if you really want to.
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My fatigue and dress uniform.
My AR.
My Dogtag.
Are you also a trained pikemen? No, that does not exist anymore. We have a bayonett though that we can stick on our assault rifles.
Im actually curious about this one. Since your army is kinda known for not fighting, what does your training primarily focus on? Switzerland also has military observers, which were also in Afghanistan, but except for that and the peacekeeping mission in Kosovo everyone just does their training and then goes back to their civil job. But the ones who do a tour, be it Kosovo for example, get special training at a seperate base built specifically for that purpose on what to expect. But for this you have to be a volunteer.
So, what do you guys focus on? is it mostly defensive or reactive things or what? I know you did deploy people to afghanistan, but i assume its not the focus of your operations like us. Is it kinda boring in an army that only commits its forces on a very limited level? But there is also training like controlling a vehicle, handling Pepperspray and Teargas and arresting people. So Swiss members of the army can also help out the police if necessary.
1) Not sure why, but I've always wondered: Are there foreigners in the Swiss Army? 1) Yes there are some people who have dual citizenship that come to Switzerland to do their service. But it is necessary that you have Swiss citizenship.
People from other European countries or even continents? 2) Oui, je parle francais, mais j'ai appris la langue dans l'ecole.
2) Parlez-vous français? 3) It depends: For Officers: 600 Days; For Non Commissioned Officers: 450 Days; For Soldiers: 300 Days.
3) How long is mandatory service in Switzerland? You can either do everything in one piece, or you complete your training and then come back every year for 3 weeks to do a repetition course. The age when you are discharched also varies by rank.
Hi! I lived in the Bern-Oberland region of your beautiful country for some time, and I saw quite a few of what looked like huge concrete bunkers (just the front of them obviously) built into the sides of the mountains. I kept meaning to ask someone what they were... Are they anything to do with the military? Yes they were probably military bunkers, could have also been bunkers for the civilian population to use.
Also, how true is it that each region's population, by which i mean those who took the military service, are especially trained to defend its area (i.e. know the best defensive and strategic location of their area) Yes and no, the equipment (Artillery & Tanks mostly) would be to much of an ordeal to move around, since tanks and howitzers areat a specific base. Many of the repetition courses always are in the same area. It used to be that every canton had their own Region to defend, but that was abolished some time ago.
How do you rate your training against say, an American or British soldier? Think you could take them down? I'd say it depends on the type of branch you are from. The Swiss forces regurlarly compete in NATO competitions and usually do pretty well.
I'd say I'm equally trained well, but not in any physical shape to take one down.
Do you eat swiss cheese? It's called Emmentaler here to be specific since we have alot of different cheeses here. I don't like it that much but we do eat it sometimes.
It must be asked. Does the Swiss army actually use the "Swiss army knife"? I presume not. Yes we are all issued with one and we use it a lot.
Yes we do!
Have you ever noticed the bear in the Toblerone mountain? No I haven't. I'm ashamed.
Do you practice krav maga? Hold black belts in any discipline? No, only the Grenadiers and special forces practice krav maga. Everyone learns some basic knowledge in self defence though.
How did this Swiss Army Knife become a world wide respected blade? Why are they so famous? Because they are very very practical.
How old are you? what party do you vote for? 20 . Liberal Greens.
Does Switzerland purchase arms from foreign companies, in which areas, and more or less than from the ones in the country? Tanks are German, Howitzers are American. Pretty much everything else including all assault rifles are made in Switzerland (RUAG, MOWAG, SIG are the big arms companys in Switzerland.)
How do i go about joining the Swiss military? I am a dual US/Swiss citizen living in the US. I took German in high school and could speak it decently but have not in a long time. Just move here and contact the Kreiskommando of your canton. I bet they can help you out.
What is your view on the Swiss invading Liechtenstein in 2007? It happens. Not such a big deal. I mean hey, we protect it if someone attacks.
Ow ow tell them about the bomb shelters in every large building! Every building is required to have an atomic shelter in the cellar. It is used mainly for extra storage space though. And we test the national alarm system yearly so every year in march it sounds like the Russians are invading the country.
Start WK on Monday, cheers to a fellow Swiss Army Redditor! Schiesst mi abr voll aa i dem wetter. Ou demfall vell spass. Muess nöchscht wuche mal as obligatorische.
Shame that most European nations are abandoning it. I am going in January for 6-12 months, Guard Jaeger Regiment in Helsinki, Finland, can't wait. Alright, hope you make it through the winter!
How is it knowing you'll never go to war, ever. You are so neutral, you make vanilla vanilla. Many of our higher ranked staff officers are trained in Germany, France and some even go to the Command and General Staff College in the USA.
Should Switzerland have sided with the Allies in WWII against the Germans? As it is, Switzerland sat idle while the Nazis butchered millions across Europe. Should the US have minded its own business and not fought to free Europe from the Nazis? The Swiss were never attacked so we did not have a reason to fight back. Neutrality has been a Swiss tradition for centuries and I don't think politicians were going to break it and then to get our asses kicked by the Nazis up north and the Fascists down south.
And no, the US did the right thing to step in.
Neutral ... are you fucking kidding me ... neutral ?? Imagine all the countries...neutral, as can be...whohoo You may say, I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
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2012.04.03 03:54 tabledresser [Table] IAmA harbour worker in Rotterdam.

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Are there any containers that have been unopened for many years? Do containers get lost in the system? Containers rarely get lost in the system, its a really advanced trackin system because every container has his own type size and number. When a container gets loaded or discharged the number gets registrerd.
Is it true that there are so many containers going through every day that trying to control the flow of illegal goods is practically impossible? Every single container is getting scanned for radioactive substances, but nog every container gets checked for illigal goods like drugs.
Do you get hassled by mafia-types to move containers around under the table? There is no hasseling for me persenal, but occasionaly some people get arrested for drug smuggling.
What do you do if you really need to take a piss when you're up in the crane? I piss straight of the crane, I warn the people below first ofcourse.
How often do containers get dropped? Containers get dropped like 0,0001%, its almost impossible to drop a container out of your cranespreader.
What's the craziest story that's happened during your time there? Not a really crazy story, but i've seen people fall really hard on the ship. Its almost like a normal day job working in the port.
I like how you refer to the containers as having gender. Did I do that??
Also, how do you know which containers to offload and how do you know where to put down the containers on the vessel? Is badly loaded containers (not balanced) an issue for you? what's the biggest problem / challenge in your work? thanks for doing an ama! The containers have their owen unique number and type size. example GESU 45G1 8904568. We know where to load and discharge thanks to a plan. Its on the computer and on a piece of paper, they show us the exact location of the container.
Badly loaded containers rarely happen because the crew of the ship and the deckman always check if the containers are loaded correct.
Since Rotterdam is basically the port where everything comes through dat is destined voor the heartland of Europa, you probably come across a wide verscheidenheid of producten. Wat is the gekste stuff dat je tot nu toe loaded hebt? And hoop je ook dat de Joden niet kampioen worden dit seizoen? I hope that Feyenoord becomes champion, and not the Jews.
I dont really get accrossed strange products, every thing is loaded in the container and then closed with a lock (its a seal with a number on it) But We get everything, mainly we import electronics and cloths and export to china old paper and pig fat.
You ever just blast out the Tetris soundtrack when you want to get into a groove? No, but QOTSA will do the trick. Loading containers is a very easy game of tetris, every block fits!
Under what weather conditions do you suspend crane operations? How do you monitor the weather from the cab? Is there a device on the crane which records wind speed? Can you see the display in the cab? At what winds speeds would you suspend crane operations? Would a single, strong gust cause you to suspend crane operations? Or does it have to be strong winds for a sustained period? What precautions do you take to secure the crane if there are high winds? How long does it take to secure the crane for bad weather? We have our own weatherman. When we begin with the shift we get briefed about wheater conditions and safety procedures. wind speeds above 20 m/s (meters a second) Its getting difficult to opperate and above 25 m/s its getting dangerous.
When the wind is blowing to hard, we stop work and put stormpods on to the crane so it cannot be moved by wind. It takes about 5 mins.
Stormpod? Yeah its like a lock, it locks the crane to the ground. Normaly the crane does not need a lock because its to heavy to be moved by wind. but when it storms we lock it on to the ground.
What are the hours like? Day/Night shifts? We work 2 day (07:15 to 15:15) 2 evening (15:15 - 23:15) and 2 night (23:15 - 07:15) and than we are 4 days free.
How busy are you during work hours? Constant non-stop or is there some lee-way? Also, any breaks? Largest/smallest item that has had to be shipped? Most interesting item? Work hours depend on the ships that are planned. We get a half an hour break after 4 hours work. Some of the most interresting items are break bulk. Big pieces of stuff such as boats, pieces of windmills that are loaded by a floating bok (a big crane on a boat) I once loaded a yacht of 40 mtrs worth around 40 million dollars.
What's the most difficult aspect of your job? The most difficult aspect is entertainment. Its a really easy job with alot of the same work. Pick up container move the container etc etc etc.
In the HBO show "The Wire," season 2 (2003) focuses on the stevedores in Baltimore and the decline of their port business. About halfway through, they listen to a presentation about Rotterdam and the automated systems that accomplish most of the work normally performed by dockworkers. The Baltimore union leader is angry, saying that this will result in less jobs for his stevedores if Baltimore installs similar systems. What is your take on this? Is there such a thing as too much automation, or are these modern systems necessary to keep up with the workload? There is a truth in that, but its also Inevitable. The port of Rotterdam is one of the most advanced ports in the world (google Euromax, thats where i also work) This is the mos modern terminal of Europe. Lots of movements go automatic and its not good for job creations. Less people are needed to transfer containers. But there is a little resistance by the workers and the union about it.
Some work that was designed for truck drivers to be opperated has been blocked and has to be done by dockworkers.
Its difficult to say that there is to much automation bacause big company demand modern terminals.
Is crime a problem? Crime is a little problem in Rotterdam, thanks to most of the immigrants.
Is Giethoorn as awesome as it looks in pictures? Giethoorn is awesome, you can hire a boat and tour across the small canals
Have you ever picked up a container packed with refugees and did you then "accidentally" swing it arround a little ? Hahahaha, Thank God never. Its not a very nice thing to experiance, collegues have had it and they got a little bit traumatised. Because most of the refugees are dead inside, a little precentage will survive a journey in a container.
I was there in 2009 while backpacking. It was probably my favorite place in all of Europe. What is the most impressive boat you have worked with? I think the most impressive boat are the Cosco boats. They are like the biggest deep sea ships on the planet. google Cosco Harmony and you will see it.
Tell us about the prostitutes there. Processes are now so fast that poor sailors dont stay long enough to get laid. Maybe they should actually bring prostitutes IN the port. How about that? I have studied Port Management and I know I thing or too about ports. Can I become something like the port's pimp? Hahaha you are thinking about a escort service. The men on the ship dont make enough money to pay them. You need to get cheap ho's, cheap transportation otherwise you cant pimp the ho's.
How complex are the loading schemes for the large cargo ships? Is it all some sort of computer model that directs you to each crate and tells you where to put it? Or do you just pick up whatever a truck brings to you? The loading and discharging shemes of bigships are really easy, the big ships are build to process the containers extremely fast. Every thing gets loaded and discharged according by harbour. Harbour 1 goes on place A Harbour 2 goes on place B etc etc. So when the ship arrives in harbour A they only need to discharge place A.
I have come across a lot of port guys who seem to not be afraid of drinking on breaks. How common is it to work a little buzzed....? Hahaha in the old days it used to be normal. Now its forbidden and it will cost you your job. But they are also lenient (nice) if you say to the chief you have a drug addiction of you're an AA, the company will help you and send you to rehab and you dont get fired.
What's your training education? Can you recommend any good harbour bars? Is the pay edaquate for your work? Have you ever been to e.g. Hamburg, visiting other harbours, and how do they compare? What is a perk that your job gets you, that we wouldn't expext? How do girls react when you tell them about your job? My training is HAVO and then went to the army. The irish pub in Rotterdam is a nice bar My pay is above adaquate, I work 31,9 hours a week for a full salary. Never visit other harbours. Its working the nightshifts with hunderds of other people while every body else is a sleep. Girls are like, wow you're a tough guy, you know what hard work is... but the work is not that hard.
This is what I came to ask as well. Additionally, are you and your fellow workers unionized? Do you feel you have a strong union? Will your job exist in a generation? Most of the dockworkers are unionized, the union is a strong union and we get lots of things done by goining on strike. But I really dont know if my job would excist in like 2032. The changes are going rapidly.
How does one go about operating a crane? Do I need to go to college or is there a little course I can do to pick it up? I always thought about being a crane operator. I don't know why, I guess I always thought it was like playing lego on a huge scale. IS IT? Also I work at an Airport, the port of the 21s centurycenturycenturycentury are there jobs similar to airports there? Like loading and unloading smaller boats and ground service of the like? No college, only real experience. You go on the crane with an instructor and 30 days later you can load and discharge containers. And after 10 years you can say, Im good at it! Than you got enough experience!
What is the biggest ship you've worked on? How are the biggest ships guided into the harbour? The ships are guided by a Loods (its a man that knows the rotterdam harbour really good and has lots of experience) Luckily for him the terminals for the big ships are mostly near the ocean.
I've always been curious, what are some of the highest paying and lowest paying jobs one can expect to find working at a harbour, particularly one the size of Rotterdam's? The highest are the managers, the lowest are the stackerturners (the put gears in the corners of containers)
Its from 1800 a month to 8000 a moth...
How strong are those gears? could i link two containers together and make a bridge? Maybe, the gears are very strong, the keep the containers connected in rough seas and bad weather.
So after AngryEnt posted that cosco picture, I wonder.. how long does unloading such a ship take? Do you go in shifts? Leuke AMA trouwens! It depends of how much contairs there have to be loaded and discharged by the planner. A big ship like a cosco normaly has about 7000 moves. devided by 6 cranes wich do 30 a 40 moves an hour. It takes up to about 29 to 35 hours.
2/ You have ways around or have any drug testing for crane operation? As hash is legal, are you legally allowed in your blood stream etc. No drug is allowed in your bloodstream, I dont really know the exact procedure but when you get caught smoking or drinking you get fired. Even though it legal in the Netherlands its considered dangerous to be influenced by drugs and thats why you get fired.
Will the future of your job change with the expansion of the port on the maasvlakte? There is a overcapacity when maasvlakte II is ready. The grow of the economy is not strong enough to fill the gap.
Example. In Rotterdam there are 4 terminals for 6.000.000 containers. The economy is nog growing but the terminals are... so in 2014 there are 8 terminals for 6.000.000 containers. This is going to be an ugly fight and result in alot of jobs losses...
WHAT IS THE RECORD NUMBER OF CONTAINERS YOU HAVE UNLOADED IN AN HOUR? I worked a tour boat in Charleston, South Carolina's Harbor and the tour guide always said a crane operator there had the record for most containers/hour at 42. 46 moves in an hour. Lots of them were twin moves (2 containers at the same time) so the total was 78 containers in a hour.
I bet a lot of it has to do with how they are stacked on the ship, though. Is that right? Yes ofcourse, it was on a big ship directly discharging the containers.
Is the movie 'contraband' based on your person? No but Tenacious D is...
What can you tell me about the computer system the port uses to track the containers? (do they use SAP?) Do other ports worldwide use the same system, and if so, are they all linked up? Do the containers have RFID tags embedded in them? if not, is that something that's gonna happen eventually? I really cannot tell you specific deatils about the the programs and communication with other ports. I know we work with Sparx and ABB I know about the RFID tags but its not a system used in the container buisness.
Do you mean you don't know about the systems, or you're not allowed to say? Dont really know the exact work of the systems, its the job of the people in the office. Im out working in the field.
Is there a specific automation system you prefer over the others? The one on the Euromax works the best since a year or 2, It had big startup problems but most of them are solved now.
Its working with Sparx and abb.
How did you get started as a crane operator? Did you have to go through some sort of technical school? or did you work your way up from janitorial services? You get a tough job interview but then when you are accepted it al gets easier. You first get to work on the ships (stevadore, deckman) so you know your way on the ship. Then you get a lesson from an instructor on a crane. You get on the crane and start working.... the instructor will help you and after a day of 30 you are finished.
I've always considered moving to Rotterdam for school. Can anyone tell me some basic stuff about the city? Can I get by only speaking english at first? Many young people there? Is Rotterdam, for the most part, a liberal and progressive city? How is for cultural arts? (Sports, music scene, museums, etc) University or Harbour school??
Have you ever met Lee Towers ? YES! hahahaha the singing crane opperator!
Has the advance of computerization had a depressing effect on employment for dock workers? Not really. Before the ship is docking we already know what is going to be discharged and loaded so we can addept. I agree its become a little bit boring because every thing is planned in to detailes.
Did you ever play Counter-Strike? If so, is the level Rotterdam anything like the real place? I know the level, it has nothing to do with Rotterdam hahahha.
Have Jahre Viking ever docked there? Link to Im not sure, there are some realy big oilships in the harbour. I some times see a big red one in the distance but not sure if its the Jahre Viking.
Do you love giant cheese-wheels? I noticed the cheese shops in XXX were insanely well stocked. Never heared about giant cheese-wheels!!!
What do you think of the red-light districts and your country's stance on prostitution, and would you say your opinion is the majority one or that most people would disagree with you a little, or a lot? Forbidding it is not the solution, you have to guide it. People are going to want have sex or drugs with of with out the law forbidding them that. You should guide it not forbid it.
I live in New Orleans, another big port city. Well, big port, small city, but seriously busy shipping and maritime industry. Do you get a lot of ships traveling to / from here? It would be fun to put a message in a bottle. Most of the ships I worked on are the once from and going to china. They make a little de-tour but I never heared tje crew about new orleans.
An engineer for the Altair once told me it costs something like $500,000 (US) to start the engines on the ship and prepare it for an ocean voyage. Any other awesome numbers to toss at me. A ship can tank hundreds of tons of fuel. Roughly, when the tank hits empty they fill it up with 800.000 euro worth of fuel. Right? Ray1986??
I found the .NL accent kind of... cute? Not to be condescending but it is a sort of funny sounding accent to me, and I would guess to most Americans. Especially the lisp, making every S into an esh. Shmoke, Shometimesh... Couldn't help smiling. What do you think of American accents? I prefer the texan accents, you can make people sound really dumb by doing an southern accent!
What about a New York accent? I cut a whole club up teaching people to say 'fugeddaboudit'. I like the italian mob accents in New York! hahaha they are very nice!
Zeg, je weet toch wel dat als je een IAmA begint, je ook moet antwoorden hè? Ik zie een hoop interessante vragen maar WAAR ZIT JE? Als je klem zit onder een container heb ik niks gezegd. Translation: Pray tell, where are you, my good man? [EDIT: He has arisen!] Im back!
I forgive you. Can you however provide some proof? Haven't seen any so far. Fotos?
Ever drop a container? Never!
What would happen if you did? I think it would be a technical fault with alot of damage! But it was not my fault.
Rotterdam huh? have you ever read Ender's Shadow? a boy grows up on the streets of rotterdam.... great book Realy?? I only know Pietje Bell and Kruimeltje... these are also books about little boys growing up in the Rotterdam streets.
I am sure Rotterdam is a popular hub for drug and counterfeit goods smuggling into continental Europe. What is the craziest things you've seen in a container customs has broken open? We never get to see what the customs break open... to bad he...
Sow Masterkm what do you think about the new Maasvlakte 2? bringing in 3 new big Container Terminals, APM MAERSK and 2 others. But are there really that much containers needed? sometimes i only see 1 ship at the Euromax Terminal, bringing in new ones makes no sense. what is your thought about this. My thought is we should sink all the ships!! Ray!
I agree, what is with the praising of Rotterdam? I recently moved there for uni and think it is actually really ugly apart from the Erasmus bridge. Everything feels out of place and the city center just doesn't make sense. Also, FEYEENOOORRRRDDDDDDD. Feyenoord!
How long did it take you to stop getting lost around there? The Delta terminal and Euromax terminal are realy easy to find. My way around the Home terminal is a bit more difficult.
How good are you at playing the crane game? Fairly Im bad at it!
What was your favourite season of The Wire? Never watched it!
Most people will tell you it's awesome. And as stated in another reply in here season 2 is about dockworkers. So related to what you do. Season 3 is, in my opinion, the best though. Im really interested beacause it has something to do with my work.
Ever lose hookers in the Stacks? Not hookers, mostely refugees. The escape from the ship and hide in the stack with millions and millions of containers.
Have you ever been to the north sea jazz fest?? No, i dont like crowded partys.
See many ro-ro's at your port? If so, do you drive them on/off, and what has ben your favorite? What are ro-ro's??
Roll on roll off, military uses them for tanks, humvees. Then car companies use them to carry their vehicles, theirs 18 wheelers, if it moves, it ships. I googled it, never saw something like that. We do load and unload a lot of army Hummers.
I work for a harbour as well, in BC, Canada. Every year at least 1 dead body surfaces around these parts. My question is: Have you seen any dead bodies surface where you work? One thing that scares me the most it that 1 to 3 people die of accidents each year. This year somebody fell from the poopdeck, broke his neck and has nerve damage and is in a come. The down side of this job.
Ik ga waarschijnlijk binnenkort verhuizen van Groningen naar Rotterdam. Heb je nog wat tips voor een naïve student wat betreft het leven in Rotterdam? Op maandag is de irish pub echt the place to be. Het is de grote pub in Rotterdam tegen over de V&D (kom er net vandaan, gaat door tot een uur of 5). Witte de with is ook een leuke plek om een biertje te drinken.
Why the trucks? why not automate the entire dock. you drop the container onto a moving belt and the system parks it. much like luggage. just bigger. We have automatic guided vehicles wich transport them to automtic cranes which can stack them up to 5 high. When you go a belt you cannot stack the containers.
Did Tom Cruise look convincing when he played a Crane Operator in War of the Worlds? Hahaha i dont see a ship, the sounds (beeping noices) are from a crane moving. Its a little bit overreacted. But its little bit like that....
Are you the only person who like the second season of the Wire? Never saw the serie the Wire. But after this IAmA I will procede to watch this serie.
I think the chandler company I work for has a setup in Port of Rotterdam. Do you see vehicles coming through labeled Wrist Ship Supply? I some times see them, a friend of mine also said he know the company.
I have to go to the Rotterdam Harbour once in a while to pick up some medical supplies just been shipped in, and I always wonder how can it be that with just a phone call: "We'll be there between 9 and 3ish" and I arrive at 1ish, I always get my goods within 15 minutes?:/ Really dont know. I think its just a good service!
Best kapsalon in Rotterdam is.......? Is the one with fries, shoarma letich and cheese!
Are you a robot? I was lead to believe the Rotterdam port is controlled by robots. Hahahah i am a fully atomatic controlled robot.
Have you seen the movie Reykjavik-Rotterdam? No, but its on my to watch list.
How many of your bikes have been stolen? 3... by junkies!
Did you see the MV Blue Marlin come in a few weeks ago with it's load of other ships? No...
Have you ever found a dead girl in the water with her eye stabbed out? Scumbag Achilles. No.
Feyenoord kampioen!! YEAH!!!
SOMEONE needs to watch the 2nd season of the Wire. (It's you, you need to watch it) I'm going to watch it, it has my attention and has been moved to the ''to watch list''
The IAmA tradition calls for all IAmAs to be started immediately before the poster embarks on a journey to Mars or somewhere more distant. Hahahah laughed really hard at this comment!
Check out the Emma Maersk or the Jahre Viking (although not a container vessel) Yes they are also big boats from Mearsk. but I dont work on Mearsk boats they have their own terminal.
Definitely up there for me too. Rotterdam has some of the coolest architecture I've ever seen and it is relatively walkable. I live in Rotterdam, Rotterdam has indeed some cool buildings and statues. But its a small city, with lots of modern achitacture thanks to the Germans who bombarded the whole city in the WWII, my granpa used to tell me the city used to be the most beautifull of the Netherlands. Now its a modern city with no heart.
This is what really disturbs me about Rotterdam. I plan on studying Business there at Erasmus University, but the fact that it's such a modern and in a way 'cold' city really puts me off. In no way comparable to cities such as Den Haag, Amsterdam, or Utrecht. Thats true... its a very modern city. But there are little things wich make it worth to go to Rotterdam.
Long live dutch hardcore! Hahaha RTC, Neophyte and Enzyme recordssssssssssss.
That's the sound we are going for. Like you guys all sound like you got a bratwurst stuck in your throat and are trying to get it out by talking really loud. Hahah dan heb je toch echt pech. Zit nu in mn vrije weekend. Ga pas donderdag weer beginnen.
Hah, just today I was reading some port economic impact studies from Erasmus University, Rotterdam. Ahhh very nice... and... whats the status??
When I get my unlimited tonnage coast guard license I will be running one of those biggest ships in the world that will come and visit your port. Most of the captains are Russian or European... I never heared about a American captain that was with his ship in the Rotterdam port. What kind of ships will you be running?? Which company?
I don't know what kind of ship yet, but I am thinking about working on LNG tankers. I'll never be a captain though (because I'll be an engineer). Ahh an engineer. Ok! Good luck with that my friend. I hope you can addept with living on a ship for days/weeks/moths.
Dan kan je beter in delft of den haag gaan wonen, veel gezelliger en veiliger, en met de trein ben je er zo. Indd.
Dat is niet netjes vriend. Indeed, not very nice. I could be a supporter of Sparta or Excelsior..
Scumbag OP. Busy with working my man!
Je zou in die klote haven moeten werken.. Hoelang denk je het nog vol te houden? Sja... ik hou het nog wel ff vol hoor. Heb mn vast contract fijne collegaas. Maar het werk kan soms erg saai zijn, dat dan weer wel. Maar het is maar 8 uur per dag, dat scheelt. 6 dagen werken, 4 dagen vrij!
How much money do you make? (hoeveel verdien je). approximately... Around 2300 netto a month.
We may ask anything, but are you going to answer anything at all? I answer most of the questions!
What is the meaning of life? To live and let die!
This is worth an AMA? Wow. Every other college dropout works in the Rotterdam harbour. What's next: IAmA homeless guy. AMA.? But not every college dropout can maintain a working place in the harbour. You think its easy... its not. Its mentaly a hard job, physicly also. Most people never get the enjoy their pension. They die when they are around 55 - 60. But we do it bacause somebody has to do it. Not everybody is a gradued from Erasmus, because then nobody would ever get his tv, xbox, iphone, ipod. We discharge those product, thanks to us you get to wear those jeans and watch tv on a samsung/philips.
Do you ever smoke weed before work? Never.
How often you fap ? I have a girl friend, she faps for me.
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